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Old November 8, 2011, 05:47 PM   #1
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Carpet Pad: Rebond or Memory Foam?


I'm finalizing my decision on carpet and have another curve ball coming. One of the finalists sells a memory foam pad. It's about 7/16 to 1/2 inch thick, and the pad puts a nice cushion, especially under pattern carpets. It has a moisture barrier on both sides.

Another finalist sells a "Stainmaster" pad, which is 1/2 inch thick, 6-pound rebond with a moisture barrier on one side. Their standard pad is 1/2 inch 6-pound rebond without a moisture barrier. to my knowledge, they do not offer a 8-pound pad.

I have no pets, and my boys are getting ready to move out.

What is your take on different carpet pads? I've read some of the older posts here and am trying to make a wise decision. Thanks again!

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Old November 8, 2011, 06:17 PM   #2
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Check the warranty on the carpet. Most if not all do not recommend cushion thicker than 7/16". I personally would go with an 8 pound but I like a firmer feel.
I have used a memory foam cushion. No longer available around here. I think it was called sunguard if I remember correctly. I loved the feel of it.

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Old November 8, 2011, 06:57 PM   #3
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We used to sell an Omalon top of the line foam pad 25+ years ago and I can't remember the name of it. It had a lifetime warranty.We more recently sold a blue foam pad that had a yellow backing that the name also slips my mind at the moment that was high end and high priced. I have NEVER seen a foam pad of any quality hold up in the long run. All the foam I have tore out has definitely shown a significant difference from the traffic to the non traffic areas.
The squishier the pad, the more tendency it has to hurt the carpet, because you are stretching the carpet every time you walk on it and causing stress to the latex that holds the primary and secondary backings together. I personally like the feel of the 6lb density, but in tearouts the 8 lb density holds up a lot better. JMHO

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Old November 8, 2011, 07:26 PM   #4
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Go with the 10 lb or an 8 with a spill guard

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Old November 8, 2011, 07:37 PM   #5
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Btw, I reckon stainmasterws pad is an 8lb not a 6lb

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Old November 8, 2011, 08:31 PM   #6
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Btw, I reckon stainmasterws pad is an 8lb not a 6lb
I hope so!

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Old November 10, 2011, 04:19 PM   #7
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When the sales rep showed me samples he showed me a "Stainmaster" pad with a moisture barrier, but said it was a 6-pound pad. If it were an 8-pound pad this decision would be a lot easier. Does "Stainmaster" make a 6-pound pad?

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Old November 10, 2011, 06:32 PM   #8
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The stainmaster is good pad. I wouldn't go with anything below 8lb pad as Ortiz already mentioned.

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Old November 10, 2011, 07:16 PM   #9
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When the sales rep showed me samples he showed me a "Stainmaster" pad with a moisture barrier, but said it was a 6-pound pad. If it were an 8-pound pad this decision would be a lot easier. Does "Stainmaster" make a 6-pound pad?
I do not believe so
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Old November 10, 2011, 11:51 PM   #10
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I would go memory foam over rebond any day. Karastan has a good rebond though. We use Karastans' 3/8" foam.

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Old November 12, 2011, 10:28 PM   #11
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Stainmaster is an 8# with a breathable moisture-barrier. This is important. You don't want something that traps moisture, as it will cause it to grow mold. A double barrier would probably do that ... not swearing by it, not familiar with this other product you're talking about, but more than likely.

Memory foam in most instances depresses as you move/walk on it and although it comes back, what does all this movement do to your carpet, and mainly the backing of your carpet? Too much movement causes delamination, or seperation of the carpet backing and the face fibers.

If you find it necessary, I'd go with the Stainmaster pad (it's all over my house!) and be safe. Unless they produce something new I don't know about, it's 8#, just ask them!

However, the base pad I sell is a 7/16" 6# rebond pad. If you don't have pets and kids are moving out, more than that is overkill. Depending on the type of carpet you're getting, you may want to use an 8# rebond for more firmness, that would also be just fine. I never try to upgrade my customers on pad in your situation. Just saying ...

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Old November 12, 2011, 10:46 PM   #12
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Why? Aren't you in sales?

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Old November 12, 2011, 11:08 PM   #13
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Why? Aren't you in sales?
What are you saying? Sell people something they don't really need just to line your own pocket? See, I don't do that. I only sell people what's approriate for their needs, and that gets me referred and gives me a lot more business. Up front, to the point. I wouldn't want someone to try to sell me something not necessary, so don't do it to anyone else. Period.

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Old November 13, 2011, 01:05 AM   #14
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For most residential carpets, 6# 7/16" was the minimum standard when I was in sales and installations. I don't think that has changed in the last 5 years. It's minimum though. That means it's just enough to maintain the carpet warranty. To me, it's too soft, too squishy. My standard pad for a very long time was 7# 7/16" (8# 3/8" for berbers and other loops).

Upgrading the cushion is not a sin, in my book. You can upgrade slightly in cost to get much better comfort, durability and life from the carpet. It has value to both consumer and retailer - better pad for the customer, better profit for the retailer.

I got more referrals because I provided a better product and service, not because I provided the minimum, base product. My 7/7 pad was actually the same price as the Home Depot half-inch, 6 pound pad and my customers could see and feel the difference. And when I explained that same issue with too much flex in the backing, they could also see I cared more about what their carpet would be like years from now.

Your mileage may vary. That was just me.

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Old November 13, 2011, 08:13 AM   #15
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If you would like industry information, go to www.carpertcushion.org/industry-links.cfm and read about the different cushions. It will be worth your time.

Hope this helps.

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