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"nails coming through carpet," in the Carpet Q&A forum, begins: "New carpet just installed by hd all the nails from the tack strip are coming through the carpet hurting feet ..."

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Old September 14, 2012, 05:14 AM   #1
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New carpet just installed by hd all the nails from the tack strip are coming through the carpet hurting feet . installer rep coming today . It sounds like he wants to bend all the nails over . Is this allright ? Will the carpet still hold in a couple of months or years? thanks for the help Ps did they use wrong strips?

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Old September 14, 2012, 06:11 AM   #2
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New carpet just installed by hd all the nails from the tack strip are coming through the carpet hurting feet . installer rep coming today . It sounds like he wants to bend all the nails over . Is this allright ? Will the carpet still hold in a couple of months or years? thanks for the help Ps did they use wrong strips?
Sounds like real thin carpet.

Using a hammer to bend pins over is accepted practice, will not adversely afffect holding power, provided all else is up to snuff.

Most installers today only use one length of pin.

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Old September 14, 2012, 10:28 AM   #3
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Sounds like real thin carpet.

Using a hammer to bend pins over is accepted practice, will not adversely afffect holding power, provided all else is up to snuff.

Most installers today only use one length of pin.
Might affect the appearance if it is a level loop. I have seen this done where it pulled the loop down with it.

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Old September 14, 2012, 11:03 AM   #4
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I've heard rumors of smaller pin tackstrip but I've never seen any for sale. I couldn't even find any online last time I looked for it.

I like to tap the pins down part way before installing the carpet. It is fine to tap them down after though as long as it doesn't leave dimples.

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Old September 14, 2012, 01:55 PM   #5
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We have long medium and short pin gripper over here in the uk, so what ever the thickness of carpet, we have the right gripper for it.we also have velcro gripper too.......looks like we are rather spoilt

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Old September 14, 2012, 02:00 PM   #6
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I also had difficulty finding any online dealers of other than standard pin height tackless. I did, however, find that Halex manufactures tackless strip in 4 different pin heights, but all pin heights except the standard E are special order. Orders must be placed through those distributors who handle Halex products. I couldn't get a list of distributors, but you can contact Jerry Palys at 800-576-1636 extension 240 and ask about the distributors in your area.

This is the page that describes the pin heights for tack strip: Carpet TackStrip: Product Guide: TackStrip Pin Height - Halex Corporation - 800-576-1636

Because the non-standard pin heights are special order only, your distributor must order a 1-pallet minimum (36-40 cartons, depending on width of the tackstrip).

I hope that was helpful.

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Old September 14, 2012, 04:12 PM   #7
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They make C,E,D,and J pin. The standard carried by the dist. are the E pin, that is the most used. You can buy the others but they make you buy a whole skid.
Now there are many way's to use the E pin and shorten them, the whay I do it is I use carpet binding and lay it across the the pin's. I also know people that will pull of the secounary baking for scrap carpet and use it.
To answer the question, yes you can tape the pins down. What you want to do is just tap them lightly not hitting them all the way down, Ust enough to not to stick thru the carpet.

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Old September 14, 2012, 06:53 PM   #8
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Just out of curiosity, where are you walking on the floor that you are feeling the tack strip pins? Transitions?

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Old September 15, 2012, 09:10 AM   #9
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I also had difficulty finding any online dealers of other than standard pin height tackless. I did, however, find that Halex manufactures tackless strip in 4 different pin heights, but all pin heights except the standard E are special order. Orders must be placed through those distributors who handle Halex products. I couldn't get a list of distributors, but you can contact Jerry Palys at 800-576-1636 extension 240 and ask about the distributors in your area.

This is the page that describes the pin heights for tack strip: Carpet TackStrip: Product Guide: TackStrip Pin Height - Halex Corporation - 800-576-1636

Because the non-standard pin heights are special order only, your distributor must order a 1-pallet minimum (36-40 cartons, depending on width of the tackstrip).

I hope that was helpful.

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Thanks Jim !! very helpful, I'll check out the products and ask distributor
to stock, however, personally Halex could make profits selling specialty products DIRECT!!.... to the installers, because the demand
isn't enough for the local distributors to stock them.

Halex !!! Stop teasing us !! and start selling DIRECT !!! All this tapping down and filler materials are getting OLD!!

Mike

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Old September 15, 2012, 04:12 PM   #10
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mike sliwinski said View Post
Thanks Jim !! very helpful, I'll check out the products and ask distributor
to stock, however, personally Halex could make profits selling specialty products DIRECT!!.... to the installers, because the demand
isn't enough for the local distributors to stock them.

Halex !!! Stop teasing us !! and start selling DIRECT !!! All this tapping down and filler materials are getting OLD!!

Mike
Like, LIKE, and LIKE again! The distributors can't afford to stock it but manu still makes it...Who the heck are they making it for? US!

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Old September 17, 2012, 03:19 AM   #11
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mike sliwinski said View Post
Thanks Jim !! very helpful, I'll check out the products and ask distributor
to stock, however, personally Halex could make profits selling specialty products DIRECT!!.... to the installers, because the demand
isn't enough for the local distributors to stock them.

Halex !!! Stop teasing us !! and start selling DIRECT !!! All this tapping down and filler materials are getting OLD!!

Mike
Never gonna happen. Why would they sell direct and jeopardize their relationships with their good customers for one-sy twos-ey business? The distributors would drop them like a stone and who could blame them.

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Old September 17, 2012, 02:49 PM   #12
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Not that many tackstrip manufacturers so no the distributors aren't going to drop them.

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Old September 17, 2012, 05:09 PM   #13
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I don't think installers of specialty carpets, buying a few cartons of tackless strip is going to jeopordize any distributor or manufacturers business relationship with each other.

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Old September 17, 2012, 06:00 PM   #14
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Never gonna happen. Why would they sell direct and jeopardize their relationships with their good customers for one-sy twos-ey business? The distributors would drop them like a stone and who could blame them.
The Manufacturers could blame them and Us customers could blame them.

If a Distributor has no intention of stocking a skid of specialty tackless,
then why would the manufacturer care about that relationship, There is no relationship attached to those products. Just sell US
the specialty items Direct. ( aluminum tackless, "D" pin and "J " Pin ) ...........Seems to me, No Conflict of interest what-so-ever

I'm ready and willing to purchase 250.00 dollars or more of 1'' "J" Pin, wood Tkls. But I have no-one in my area willing to sell it.

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Old September 17, 2012, 07:25 PM   #15
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I have to purchase a pallet a time. That means I had,to buy 2 pallets wood and concrete. Alot of installers dont usually buy 80 boxes of tackstrip.

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