"12' wide carpet," in the Carpet Q&A forum, begins: "Many of you have visited a mill, I never have. Why is it, that residential carpet, is not 12' wide? ..."
Many of you have visited a mill, I never have. Why is it, that residential carpet, is not 12' wide? I know years ago most of it was. Now, some of it is only 11' 9". Most of the apts that I carpet were built 30-40 years ago and were built so that 12' wide carpet would drop in. It is really difficult to explain to some landlords when replacing carpet they had installed thirty years ago, that I need extra carpet to fill the back of a closet or to sidefill a room that is 12' wide. And with many backings, there is no way to get a 3" stretch.
it's just a trick to sell you what you're not getting. Most mohawk goods that i've seen are 11' 11''. I'm sure that the 1'' adds up to plenty of money saved on thousands of rolls of carpet produced. However, it's really only annoying to me when the sales person doesn't realize that you can't have to shots of carpet do a 23' 11'' room with a seem. Somehow we're supposed to make it work...yeah.
it's just a trick to sell you what you're not getting. Most mohawk goods that i've seen are 11' 11''. I'm sure that the 1'' adds up to plenty of money saved on thousands of rolls of carpet produced. However, it's really only annoying to me when the sales person doesn't realize that you can't have to shots of carpet do a 23' 11'' room with a seem. Somehow we're supposed to make it work...yeah.
Sometimes ya can if you use a big stretcher and a 4X4 stretcher board. ............. on the bright side, once in a blue moon I have 3 walls that don't require trimming............. all 4 once, 22 years ago.
What bugs me about 11' 11" carpets is when they have an 18 inch pattern match.
I recall a carpet back in the mid to late 70's that always came 11' 10" and the match was 18 1/8" It was quite often "monkey matched" I recall it was about 3 inches short of a match before trimming the seam.
Sounds like you all had better start getting folks to buy commercial goods- they ship with the selvages intact!
I don't know when or why, but is had been the industry practice for at least 30 years to trim selvages on residential goods. I cannot think of any legitimate reason for doing it as it actually adds another step for the mill. The yarn trimmed off cannot be recycled ionto new yarn so they have the iisue of utilizing it somehow or sending it to a land fill. The reality is they ar etufted at 12'1" to 12'3" (some shifting needle bar goods are even wider).
As we had some property management company work, our inventory orders were placed for residential goods with selvagtes to be left intact. In most cases we were able to get 11'10" or larger for installation after trimming. We were only able to do that as most opf these orders were 2-3K yards per color with total orders of 5-10K yards. Even though the good rnaged form sub FHA to some decent grades, the orders were large enough and steady enough to allow us to enforce these conditions on our orders.
Now short rolls are a whole different issue! We routinely back charged for roll shortages.
that brings up the question that get sometimes after install ...... i get x amount of carpet customer sees fall off then asks "you charging me for the falloff not installed?" same with padding we all know we use less pad than carpet..oh.... the answer is: yes...i charge for what is on the truck
that brings up the question that get sometimes after install ...... i get x amount of carpet customer sees fall off then asks "you charging me for the falloff not installed?" same with padding we all know we use less pad than carpet..oh.... the answer is: yes...i charge for what is on the truck
We use the phrase that we charge 'for the material handled'
We use the phrase that we charge 'for the material handled'
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If a customer brings this up, I tell them that on my end anyway, the costs are the same because it takes just as much time and sometimes even more than if all the handled material was installed.
In the sketch below, rooms A and B are 11 feet by 14 feet and tho both require the same length of carpet, room B actually takes a little more time to install than room A and it requires exactly the same amount of tackstrip, staples and amount of wall trimming.
If the walls are curved or angled even more installation time is needed.
I also tell them it's an industry standard to price pad and carpet in the same amounts............ I tell them if the retailer computed the amounts required separately, the prices of the carpet and pad would have to rise a little to make up the difference. It's sold as a package and not as deceptive as it appears at first glance.
Customers usually understand once they see there are legitimate reasons why pricing is figured this way.
............. on the bright side, once in a blue moon I have 3 walls that don't require trimming............. all 4 once, 22 years ago.
i get x amount of carpet
customer sees fall off
then asks "you charging me for the falloff not installed?" same with padding
.oh.... the answer is: yes
