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"basement glue down with or without padding," in the Carpet Q&A forum, begins: "Long story short: South Jersey floods my basement 4 times this year (1st time in 15 yrs I'm told) after ..."

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Old September 8, 2010, 11:29 PM   #1
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Long story short: South Jersey floods my basement 4 times this year (1st time in 15 yrs I'm told) after I had finished the basement last year. Murphy lives here. I rip out everything, including vinyl sticky flooring squares from LW and 4 vertical feet of drywall & studs. I

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Old September 8, 2010, 11:37 PM   #2
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Old September 9, 2010, 01:07 AM   #3
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Old September 9, 2010, 01:26 AM   #4
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Don't think my whole posting showed.
I'm thinking about gluing down carpet in my basement. What brand(s) should I be looking at? What "heigth/ply/hand?" should I go with (better than indoor/outdoor style)? How much of a PIA is padding going to be? Do they make carpet with padding attached to the carpet already?

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Depends on what you are using the basement for as to what cpt and type of install. Are you planning on installing it yourself ?
You are probably in the neighborhood as me . I got flooded 2 times . I would pick up a $6.00 pressure garden sprayer and a gallon of microban from a cpt cleaning supply store and spray everything so you don't get any mold .

From what i hear the pumps went down in Acto . a few towns had all the houses flooded . everyone turned the claim into the townshp , and in turn sent it to fema who shot it down .

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I'm thinking about gluing down carpet in my basement. What brand(s) should I be looking at? What "heigth/ply/hand?" should I go with (better than indoor/outdoor style)? How much of a PIA is padding going to be? Do they make carpet with padding attached to the carpet already?
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Forget about pad and go with a commercial carpet tile with a vinyl or rubber backing. For an area that didn't have anything besides foot traffic it's possible to install those without adhesive although I don't believe any manufacturer would agree. They will expand and contract with temperature and humidity change so there are cases where you absolutely need adhesive. In your case I'd be inclined to forget about gluing them down even with a "releasable" adhesive. I'd rather deal with an occasional shifted square or puckering and loosening of the grid than the stench of soaked carpet, pad and adhesive.

I did an IBM building once where the roof leaked right after we installed the Interface carpet squares (maybe it was Milliken). It was a 400 s/y cafeteria. Laborers picked up the tiles and they were shipped out to be dry cleaned like an old suit. They came back good as new and we relaid them. This was in a brand new construction.

This is the project I'm referring to:MasterCard International Global Headquarters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old September 10, 2010, 02:48 PM   #7
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"Depends on what you are using the basement for as to what cpt and type of install."
It will be a child's play room / den / guest room. I will be doing the work myself. I like the idea of carpeting, but I want it to be comfortable. That's why I'm interested in the padding aspect.

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"Depends on what you are using the basement for as to what cpt and type of install."
It will be a child's play room / den / guest room. I will be doing the work myself. I like the idea of carpeting, but I want it to be comfortable. That's why I'm interested in the padding aspect.
There's a carpet tile with a cushion at the bottom of this page. I installed this stuff for a pharmacist who's employees stood all day behind the counter, digging through the shelves of capsules or mixing compounds. It's ideal for your situation in my opinion. We put something similar from another manufacturer in other chain store pharmacies behind the counter. Bottom line is a relatively thick cushion that doesn't feel like commercial carpet.

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Old September 18, 2010, 04:12 PM   #9
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There's a carpet tile with a cushion at the bottom of this page. I installed this stuff for a pharmacist who's employees stood all day behind the counter, digging through the shelves of capsules or mixing compounds. It's ideal for your situation in my opinion. We put something similar from another manufacturer in other chain store pharmacies behind the counter. Bottom line is a relatively thick cushion that doesn't feel like commercial carpet.

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The one thing about the residential Milliken tiles is it's a small layer of rebonded. 6lb and you would need to be carefull if they get FLOODED bad. Rebond no likey water.
You should possibly look into IVC flexitec vinyl and some area rugs bound over it. Just an option and you can loose lay it

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The one thing about the residential Milliken tiles is it's a small layer of rebonded. 6lb and you would need to be carefull if they get FLOODED bad. Rebond no likey water.
You should possibly look into IVC flexitec vinyl and some area rugs bound over it. Just an option and you can loose lay it
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I've never seen or handled any residential carpet squares. The ones I laid today (500 s/y) are Mannington and the backing is a fairly dense rubber. It's more comfortable to walk on than direct glue down but it's not like a high end residential feel where you can lay comfortably on the floor with the kids and wrestle or lounge down there. I'm not sure how it would fare in a flood but I'm sure it would be better than any conventional residential materials that I'm familiar with.

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I've never seen or handled any residential carpet squares. The ones I laid today (500 s/y) are Mannington and the backing is a fairly dense rubber. It's more comfortable to walk on than direct glue down but it's not like a high end residential feel where you can lay comfortably on the floor with the kids and wrestle or lounge down there. I'm not sure how it would fare in a flood but I'm sure it would be better than any conventional residential materials that I'm familiar with.

I hear ya, that is one of my issues when i try to show consumers the tiles I carry (shaw), being all commercial it's just not soft enough for Billy and Jenny to lay on. Kinda the cake and eat it too thing.

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Old September 24, 2010, 12:43 PM   #12
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Collins and aikman has a rubber backed carpet that comes in 6' goods that is used for hospital halls....you can run a river over it and it will clean up....if you can find a carpet shop that has commercial contracts they will have access to this material and I am sure they will sell you whatever they can...carpet tiles sound good too, but i think I would recommend a commercial 18" tile...

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Collins and aikman has a rubber backed carpet that comes in 6' goods that is used for hospital halls....you can run a river over it and it will clean up....if you can find a carpet shop that has commercial contracts they will have access to this material and I am sure they will sell you whatever they can...carpet tiles sound good too, but i think I would recommend a commercial 18" tile...
Something like an Interface System Six comes to mind. I don't think that's been around for many years but I'm using it as an example of what you're talking about. The C&A would be much more appropriate for residential as the System Six had no cushion whatsoever.

I think the peel and stick cushion back C&A is this dude's best choice and you're right again that it would be worth his while IF he could find a nearby commercial outfit that's got something like that leftover just taking up space in a warehouse

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Old September 24, 2010, 04:14 PM   #14
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I don't know what Interface system six is but they do have the floating Tack Tile installation system that might work well for you.

The tiles are connected at the corners with tape and if they get flooded they can be pulled up, cleaned and re installed.

They also have probably the best anti microbial treatment in the industry ( according to them )

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Old September 24, 2010, 05:14 PM   #15
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Yeah brian you brought back memories...the peel and stick C&A...the trick is to find a shop that was servicing institutions like hospitals and schools......that stuff is like steel you will know what I mean when you go through 10 blades trimming in 40 yards...C&A interface has been around at least since 94...i didn't research the original poster but I can get it for you in Michigan.....the shop I pulled from has a replacement contract and they have rollls on hand......this stuff is like having 1/2 inch epoxy......people die in these rugs and they use industrial cleaners and machines....then they roll in another goner


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