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This discussion, "Softbac carpet", in Carpet Q&A (part of the category Do-It-Yourself & Consumer Support), begins, "I admit I am a dummy with the new backing, that said what are the recommendations for seaming Softbac?..."
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October 10, 2006, 04:48 PM
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Softbac carpet
I admit I am a dummy with the new backing, that said what are the recommendations for seaming Softbac?
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October 10, 2006, 05:46 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
Thermoseal it!!! They say to crank the iron up "to burn off the fleece" but I find that makes profiling/ highlighting exaggerated. I run my iron as usual, using a low profile tape, and roll it hard a couple of times(don't get carried away with the roller.
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October 10, 2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
I use thermoseal along with the Seamer Down Now.
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October 15, 2006, 12:14 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
Unless they have changed the recomendations, the heat needs to be cranked up to partially melt the fleece............. otherwise you are gluing the fleece together, not the backing. I usually run the iron close to high............ kinda scary the first time around.
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October 15, 2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
SoftBac.com - Installation Tips
Seaming/Taping/Gluing
We recommend using premium quality, 4-inch tape for all seams. An iron set at 3.5 should be moved across the seam slow enough to melt the tape adhesive.
For questions regarding installation, call 1-800-441-7429.
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October 15, 2006, 01:44 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
Or you could just call Dan.
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October 15, 2006, 06:53 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
i do the same as floor guy...........
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October 15, 2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
Are you talking Shaw's softbac or Beauliu's Luxurybac?
I just work with the Luxurybac for the first time and asked some questions. I was told to expect the seam to profile. Seam across the center of the room with light running across the seam. Used 6 in tape, made seam on a board, along with the SDN. The seam did not profile or peak. Also was told it would stretch much, it stretched like crazy.
But one thing that will help tremendously is use a electric leaf blower and You will be able to position the carpet a whole lot easier.
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October 15, 2006, 08:22 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
Ditto Floorguy and AL. And, ain't that leafblower trick a dandy?
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October 23, 2006, 02:25 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
I have done a ton of Shaw soft back with a permuim 4" tape the 6" will show under it.
With the iron set on 3.5. never had any problems{also the shaw rep is a friend who tells me that other who have had problems are useing cheap tape}
The whole point of having the soft back on my jobs is i install ceramic tile as well as wood in most of the holmes i do and stick the carpets in the bed rooms. The customers always want a area rug and extra matrerials can be ordered and cut at the same time and bound localy or a custon 2-3 color rug made to go on the wood.
the local place does add the soft back to area rugs but this skips this step.
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October 23, 2006, 08:58 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
the same as don.i do hate softbac and all the other fleece backings  the only thing they are good for is non scratching walls and base!did 167 yards of it today,cold,wet outside 32 bullnosed stairs stiff,slippery in unheated basement strip 1/4 from wall makes for a suck day!sorry just venting...dj
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October 24, 2006, 02:49 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
I don't like that it is extra heavy to carry
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October 25, 2006, 08:13 AM
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Re: Softbac carpet
For the stiff carpets and stairs I have a friend who is turning me on to hairdryers running and blowing down the walls I'm working. I tease him about it but it does work great. Really softens and makes the carpet pliable and more managable. Try it you'll like it!
Also on the softbacks it iw recommended to trim as you go, especially the set walls. I also use tritack on all softbacs.
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October 25, 2006, 12:44 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
the hair dryer is a great idea,i like tri tack also when the strip is down on concrete i try to leave it though. thanks for the tip...dj
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October 26, 2006, 04:10 PM
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Re: Softbac carpet
I see no advantage to softbac. It is too heavy, hard to seam, hard to stretch and hard to trim. The only reason for making it must be profit. If fact i have refused to install and steered customers to what I consider better backings.
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