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"Mitered corners and wide binding," in the Carpet Q&A forum, begins: "Is there a trick to doing mitered corners on carpet binding? My neighbor/binder has no idea how to do it ..."

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Old November 18, 2010, 01:56 PM   #1
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Mitered corners and wide binding


Is there a trick to doing mitered corners on carpet binding? My neighbor/binder has no idea how to do it and is asking me if I know. Having never bound a rug before I don't.

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Old November 18, 2010, 04:10 PM   #2
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How big is wide binding?? I have never done the 4" or what ever it is. But regular binding I prefer to run off the edge and cut it off, then start down the side. Some prefer to wrap around the corner.

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Old November 18, 2010, 05:18 PM   #3
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We do miters on wide bindings on a regular basis. Yes, there is a trick to it. What exactly is the question?

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Old November 22, 2010, 05:06 AM   #4
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Mitered Corners


There's a few different ways to do the corners. One of the most popular is ton bisect the corner and tuck the carpet into each. It's not easy but I've seen a few master installers do it that way.

There are videos available for that but nothing like hands on training. If any installers close to you, maybe they can help you??? Where are you perhaps I could suggest a customer. Not sure if a competitor would be willing to help. *** Ask Chris Flynn. He's done more mitered corners probably as much as anyone and he's always on line. If you need his contact info let me know. I think he's a charter member on this site

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Old November 22, 2010, 09:10 AM   #5
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Darren,

Here's the thing about miters on wide trims; as NC mentioned, there are several ways these can be done. The method that will work best depends on the method and manner employed to attach the trim.

Techniques vary from everything to the fold & tuck method NC mentioned, which works best when the trim is top stitched to miters sewn with a blind stitch. {{our preference because blind stitching works every time no matter how wide and it works on inside and outside miters.} Yet, even with blind stitching, several different techniques can be applied to achieve the similar results.

There is even the technique where miters are cut into the carpet and the trim is pulled trough the cut and glued. This method is crude, looks very amateurish and is only applicable on tufted broadloom.

Here's the thing to tell your neighbor, miters on wide trims will require practice and once the basic skill set is acquired, honing the technique that works best for them will be both easy and profitable. You can also tell your neighbor, if he doesn't know how to do miters, he doesn't know how to apply wide trim. If he's serious about the trade, the time to learn is now. We're all here to help! Otherwise, he will be known for his limitations, not abilities and that's a bad place for a service provider to be.

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BTW: Does anyone know why we do wide bindings? We even provide this service to other businesses. Know why? The answer is, because it's wicked easy work and so darn profitable!!! And that my friends one of the building blocks of profitability, identify what is highly profitable and do it as much as we can.

Something to think about?

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Old November 22, 2010, 09:13 AM   #6
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You have any photos of one completed Dobby?

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Old November 22, 2010, 09:35 AM   #7
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I love this Dobby guy. Wide borders is the most profitable way to make money. You're charging big bucks per foot & you charge per mitered corner. That's why we're offerring much more in this area. Even though the economy stinks it's trending toward wide borders for awhile now. I have contacts with some good installers for wide borders but looks like this room is handling it and then some. Good luck

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Old November 22, 2010, 08:10 PM   #8
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Here is one method of making a miter with wide tape {{5" trim, anything wider than 3" is considered a wide trim.}} In the method shown, the sewing is done from the bottom using a pencil line as a guide. While not the most versatile method, this is a great starting point. Another technique of sewing a blind stitch is done from the top with a straight needle for broader applications.

Hope this helps.

Dobby

BTW: Tapes & trims are awesome on stairs. If we have the ability and patience for complicated stair installs, the ability to fabricate and apply a decorative tape or trim, on site, is one certain way to differentiate ourselves from the herd while enhancing our bottom line. Something to think about.
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Old November 22, 2010, 08:15 PM   #9
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Tapes and trims should never be glued to the surface. They are textile fabrics and they must be permitted the ability to live freely, independent of the base fabric.
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Old November 22, 2010, 08:32 PM   #10
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The same techniques required to apply wide trims, also work on most any fabric, tapestries, leather, suede's and hides.

Dobby

PS: Here's the thing, let's not fool ourselves by poo-poo'ing the whole wide trim thing as not being in 'our' locale. Just because no one has ever called and asked us to provide this type of service does not mean it is not happening all around us. In fact, go find any home furnishing catalog in your home right now, turn to the sections that feature rugs and what will we see?

We'll see an offering of rugs with tapes & trims. Every stinking catalog that goes in every home in North America offers some sort of rug with a trim and we can't? Seriously? Talk about untapped market potential right in our own neighborhood.
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Old November 23, 2010, 12:43 AM   #11
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Thanks Dobby .

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Old November 23, 2010, 07:08 PM   #12
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Well Done,
And Thanks Dobby Tappet

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