schluter systems kerdi and 9235

[hookknife]

I just saw a job where the installer used the kerdi system, but in the window area he used a roll on (9235 I think, it was black) any how I like the idea it saved alot of kerdi buildup in the window area, just wondering what you guys thought of that pro's or con's

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[Bud Cline]

Until someone convinces me differently I'm all for it.

I use KERDI pans but finish out the remainder of the walls with liquid waterproofing. It's not near as much aggravation as is the KERDI going up the walls.

[hookknife]

I did a test piece of kerdi yesterday applied 9235 to it, let it dry, and it bonded very well to the kerdi today i peeled it off and it stuck to the kerdi just as well as mortar, pretty cool way to do windows i would think

[Jerry Thomas]

I use 9235 in every shower also Bud. I need to start building showers the way you do it using a Kerdi pan. Never tried that yet and don't really know enough about it to understand how it is done.

Sorry if I am hijacking your thread hookknife

[hookknife]

Not highjacking anything Jerry, I was just wondering about the compatability of the two products, and from my test I would say they would they work together well

[Danny Ferguson]

Cost and sqft comparrison between Kerdi and 9235 are just about the same. 9235 is a heck of alot quicker than workin the Kerdi on the walls. It will also work on drywall along with kerdi. Bud do you flash the kerdi up the walls from the pan, or do you use the 9235 tape and overlap the kerdi pan? Like Bryan said, I hate dealing with kerdi build up. Nice idea guys. I'm thinking this wouldn't be backed by Schlueter.

[NumbersBoy]

Our shop switched to Mer-Krete products 4-5 months ago. Hydro-Guard one, & Hydro-Guard 2000. No Kerdi OR 9235 anymore. Also using Fracture-Guard 5000.
Mer-Krete used to be only available on the West Coast, but now they're hooked up w/ Dal.
Not to sound like a rep (I'm not), but "exiting new products coming".
How 'bout thinset that "will set up in a ziplock bag". Developed to go over their stuff. Not on there website yet.

Mer-Kote Products

Happy to answer any questions IF YOU ARE PAITIENT. I'm COMPLETELY SLAMMED right now, could take days for me to respond.
NumbersBoy

[Bud Cline]

I try to turn the Kerdi up the walls about nine inches, of course this always requires a seam in the KEDI on the floor. This "seam" stuff has always been worrisome for me but I'm trusting Schluter in that a two-inch overlap is all that is required for seams. I dog-ear the corners with the sheet product then use their corner pieces to make the corners. (Forget what they are called) The corner pieces are supposedly thinner than the KERDI Mat thickness but buildup becomes an issue when you start laying all that KERDI in there with thinset.

Anyway beyond the nine inches of KERDI Mat flashed up the walls I then apply liquid waterproofing from the floor up to at least the shower head. This is all done over Hardi. I haven't had the guts to install KERDI over drywall as yet. Don't think that I will either.

I have used 9235 and Latticrete's Watertight also. Just recently I have started using RedGard because I can get it when I need it from Home Depot and there is no frieght. Around here most everything must come via UPS or FEDEX and it gets costly.

I just ordered two Schluter Shower Kits for my next two showers and this will eliminate the need for the concrete completely. The older I get the more I seek out ways to lighten my work load.

JERRY, once you do your first shower with KERDI you'll never go back to the old fashion double-cast concrete vinyl pan method. Keeping the moisture at or near the surface is just the practical way to do things. Seems that every customer I talk to is familiar with the stink of the old concrete shower bases and are more than anxious to spend a few extra bucks for the Schluter System after I bisect the two methods for them. The KERDI sells itself basically.

[hookknife]

I agree with Bud, the surface protection from water just makes sense.

[cproader]

Come on Bud, be a sport. They're recommending you install it over drywall So you first and then let us know, will ya.

[hookknife]

If its really waterproof it shouldn't matter what you go over as long as it structurally sound.

[Jerry Thomas]

I just had a brainstorm Bud .. Why don't you write a nice article for us on using the KERDI shower pan in place of the old way. I will sponser a contest on the best article for shower pans. The prize will be a free Tavy Puck... I'll even pay the shipping

[Nick Arrera]

I'll Bite , what is a Tavy Puck ?

[hookknife]

A Tavy Puck is something a carpet layer uses to install tile,hehehe

[Floorguy]

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It is a hockey puck.

You slide it around on your tile, and feel the lippage, for those that have no nerves in their fingers & hands any longer.