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Ditra vs. Hardee Backer



"Ditra vs. Hardee Backer," in the Floor Preparation forum, begins: "Greetings and salutations... i have a few questions i am hoping someone can help me with. quite a few years ..."

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Old January 22, 2013, 07:55 PM   #1
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Ditra vs. Hardee Backer


Greetings and salutations...
i have a few questions i am hoping someone can help me with. quite a few years ago i took on a HUGE project and "updated" my home. i replaced all carpet with 1 1/2" pine slats and all other rooms with ceramic tile. this is including custom showers and tubs.....serious work and a very educational one. since then i have been asked to do jobs for family, and then friends. it turned into a part time job. i have always used hardee 3 x 5 cement backer board on top of sub floors. recently i saw this Ditra system and it is double in cost vs. cement board. so my question is....which system is better? if it is ditra, should i use 1/8 or 5/16? and what thin set/ mortar do i use? (i prefer the best one, these are not low budget jobs so i need the best) most of my jobs are in master bathrooms, and laundry rooms. most of them are custom, so i need quality material/products!!
if anyone can help me with this it is much appreciated...
thanks in advance-
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Old January 22, 2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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Mudduck....................Now that is a cool name! I have the same philosophy as the great coach John Madden. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Hardi backer is a great product, so is wonder board. Use them both. So my opinion if you are use to using one product stick with it.


Most of the time, the old ways are better!

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Old January 23, 2013, 06:39 AM   #3
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My suggestion is to experiment with Ditra in a small bathroom. This will help you learn about the product, figure out the troweling procedures, and you will likely start using Ditra, at least on a limited basis.

I use Ditra all the time these days. The simplicity with which it goes down makes up for the cost, in my opinion.

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Old January 23, 2013, 07:36 AM   #4
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Be careful with the mortars with Ditra. Read the specs from Schluter. Modified mortar (with latex) is used to set the Ditra and the specs call for unmodified for setting the tile on top. This is a problem with setting porcelain tile which needs modified, the heaviest possible. Laticrete will specify that you can use their quick set modified for setting the tile and this will work for porcelain, which most tiles are these days.

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I tiled my daughters basement bath 2 years go and used Ditra. The tile distributor gave me Ditra Set[?] and said it could be used to set the Ditra and the tile on top. So far everything is where its susposed to be. By the way I'm not a tile installer,carpet installer but do a lot of my own work, so I go by what is recomended to me.

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Ditra vs. Hardee Backer


Do you set your hardibacker board in thinset, I screw the board and when it starts to push up from the floor I reverse the screwgun to ream out the hardboard, then screw it down to prevent any gaps in between substrate and H.B. do you use correct screws,? Drywall screws will corrode from cement. Are you following correct screw pattern ? Taping joints? Sponging down prior to applying thinset to prevent board from pulling out moisture in thinset prior to setting tile. Are you using snapper shear s424 to cut avoiding airborne dust?
Try to attend a schluter class if you are able, it is free, the training is hands on, they'll put you up in hotel and pay for your food. I don't think the cost is double.
The thicker ditra would be for matching height of a 3/4 solid hardwood.
Ditra has more benefits than Hardi
Subfloor has to be rigid, otherwise tile will crack and removal is a mess and they will blame your lack of knowledge for failure. Just don't want you to mess up, going thru the motions but not knowing why can get you in trouble, seek as much knowledge as possible,, your working with manufacturers product which are constantly changing.

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Old January 24, 2013, 07:16 PM   #7
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For me Ditra all the way.

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