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"New flash cove product and video," in the Floorcovering Video Collection forum, begins: "Here is a new video that I have not seen yet. Interesting and I am still processing what I saw ..."

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Old December 21, 2011, 10:42 AM   #1
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New flash cove product and video


Here is a new video that I have not seen yet. Interesting and I am still processing what I saw in the video. Not quite sure what to think yet.





Also here is the link to website for more information www.flashcove.com

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Old December 21, 2011, 10:53 AM   #2
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when it comes to coved vinyl I think I prefer the look of flash cove.

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Old December 21, 2011, 11:01 AM   #3
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I installed a very similar product about 7 years ago made by Roppe. It was a challenge to say the least as it was block walls with columns with rounded corners. Didn't have the tools this dude does either. Roppe makes caulk that is the same color as their base. It was a godsend.

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Old December 21, 2011, 11:04 AM   #4
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I'll pass.....LOL
In a perfect room, is say it wouldn't be a pain in the butt.....
Definitely simple, but I do have a real problem with using cove base adhesive on real link. I've only seen that fail with linoleum. I've done tons of pre fab cove jobs, but its usually rubber like protectall or Nora.
I'm not a fan from what one seen in the video, but im sure one day ill have to install it.

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Old December 21, 2011, 05:48 PM   #5
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Can't believe how sloppy the dude is with the cove base cement.

Thanks for your help. Call the hall.

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Old December 21, 2011, 06:25 PM   #6
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I agree with Steve in a perferct world it probably nice but come on down to the job I had to stick my poor little brother on and will see that crying in his cookies and milk like he was a third grader again not one corner even close to square.

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Old December 21, 2011, 06:27 PM   #7
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And base glue to hold cap metal on when did that change

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Old December 21, 2011, 06:49 PM   #8
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And base glue to hold cap metal on when did that change
That outside corner he made at the end with the cap metal was VERY confusing to me. I never saw such a thing.

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That outside corner he made at the end with the cap metal was VERY confusing to me. I never saw such a thing.

I was wondering when someone was going to catch that



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Old December 21, 2011, 07:01 PM   #10
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He didnt explain it right or use it in the right sitution if he did what I think he did cause he confused me too the way he explained it

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And base glue to hold cap metal on when did that change
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It's probably a much WORSE idea on the floor

What's the point of that?

Why not just go ahead and use Forbo/Armstrong or whatever appropriate lino adhesive. It's faster, better and easier.

I used to use cove base paste up on the wall for cove lino until Mr. Master Mechanic who's Forbo certified scolded me and schooled me.

Wouldn't think of it nowadays.

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I invited the manufacturer to visit this discussion. I hope they will join and respond.

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Old December 21, 2011, 09:03 PM   #13
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I see it as a great idea.....with a Huge "IF"

That is IF the floors are self leveled....
If the walls are straight....
If the corners are square....

None of which you EVER see on a real job site.
I still can't get over the use of cove base adhesive on real lino.
And I just re-watched the video and saw that last horrid outside corner with the SS metal.
In a perfect world, this is the perfect product for perimeter flashing.
But, in my 25+++ years, it is extremely rare that you do that. It is almost always self coved, pattern scribed with Marmoleum/Armstrong. And every job comes out as perfect as the room allows it to be.
I wish these guys luck, but they need to really sell this idea to the architects, designers, and GC companies.
A full walk through is MANDATORY prior to installation by the installer to ensure all the walls are true as is the floor.
I have no problem if I personally get to self level, or a good company does the leveling. But the walls are the biggest issue to me....
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Cool.....
I would love to discuss this with them on real terms.
I never want to knock a good innovation that can make a nice job.
It is a great concept......

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That is almost laughable I got borred half way through that what on earth is he doing and no welding whats that all about.
Ok so its by no means a new method and I have done thousands of metres of that stuff, there are 2 kinds the one he was showing with the rubbish metal coved back, which by the way always comes to coved so you have to lay them out and apply some preasure to reverse the bend otherwise it just keeps lifting.
The other one is a fibre glass backed cove re-inforced which is much better.
Now the way he's doing that is so long winded this is how we would do it.
1. gauge the hieght of the capping measure and strike a chalk line all round the room.
2. paste up walls and floor and cove base and pvc capping with contact adhesive.
3. fit capping.
4. fit flash coving using knife tin snips and small straight edges.
5. fit floor.
6. groove and weld.
7. pack up clean up go home.

The chop saw is not needed and just another tool to lug around site and fight for power. Plus on top of the constant back and forward to the saw for cutting and the mess it makes.
Also the welding in a hospital enviroment is a must, open seams equals a breeding ground for bacteria, we would not get away with that here.
And another thing why have a seperate cove base when the matterial can be coved onsite anyway.

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