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This discussion, "Best and Worst for the Week", in Flooring Potpourri (part of the category The Professional Forums), begins, "Here's the two landings and a view of the funky column, looking downward.
Dobby..."
Aside from and in between the sales presentations, quotation writing, on site measures, off loading trucks and daily phone calls. We also got started on part of next weeks installations with sewing up this 27" historic, 10 x 10, worstered wool axminster.
Note the 1/2 drop repeat added on one cut. The first set of cuts is made in even increments of the patterns repeat. The second set is measured to an even increment of the patterns repeat plus a half pattern. The remaining cuts, now half a pattern off from the first set, are taken in even increments of the patterns repeat.
A total of ten cuts are taken off the roll with only a half pattern repeat as waste.
All right, I have to ask, as I am the dumb kid in the class. Are the pieces ready to be sewn together, or do you have to trim/prep the edge? I've seen the pictures posted here, and on other site where you have shared your expertise, and always wondered...
great work Dobby,here's mine for the week....my own place using 'left overs' so it will cost me nothing but time...i'll do it over a few weeks on my days off. here's a couple...(turning it into my pool-bar room)
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Here’s a shot of the finished carpet, in the room.
Stripbuster, that looks really cool and looks like some great work. I love to see things other folks are doing. Thank you!
SK, your question about seam preparation is an excellent one and a source of confusion for many. The general rule for narrow width material is to leave the factory edge, or selvage, in tact when joining panels together. This is especially true with wilton qualities or any product woven with a shuttle. Because shuttles carry the weft across the width of the material and return the weft in the opposite direction with the next cycle of the loom, the finished selvage is tight ’or close’ the outer most warps.
The exception is materials woven with a rapier or other insertion type device. Rapiers perform the same function as a shuttle. That is, to carry the weft across the width of material. Only instead of a being a boat shape shuttle, the rapier is a long rod that carries the weft across the material, dropping the weft and returning from whence it came. When rapiers are used on velvet and wilton looms, the weft ends are secured with additional warps rows of a waste color next to several pileless rows of stuffers before the weft is cut. Which is a whole new topic.
However on axminsters, the weft is secured with a chaining device that, depending on the adjustment, can and very often leaves a large flat selvage at the edge of the weave. When this happens, which is almost always, to join two selvages like this would result is a void, or gutter, along the seam lines. These voids or gutters are a very bad thing and we can discuss them in a different thread topic if you would like.
Now, back to addressing the original question about trimming selvages, being as how this product is an axminster and we did have large flat selvages {about a 1/4” on each side!} we did trim the selvages on every panel. However, and this is very important, we trimmed and sealed the selvage to the closest warp chain. We did not remove any surface yarn. No rows of surface pile were removed. To remove rows of surface pile would have resulted in an inability to match the pattern and that would be a very-very-very bad thing.
Hope this helps. If any aspect of this is unclear or additional information is required, please do not hesitate to make a reply post or send me a private message. Because this is all good information for anyone who works with, or wants to work with, woven carpets to have and I am more than happy to assist and share with fellow flooring pros like you folks here.
With kindest regards to all!
Dobby
Last edited by TFP Admin; March 17, 2007 at 04:23 PM.
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This week our friend Randy {as in Low Down} helped us solve a tricky dilemma on a runner install. So thank you Mr. LowDown.
Dobby
Dobby, what have you been smokin? Are you sure you got the right guy?
........ I'm the guy that ASKS all the questions. Remember? Hee hee.
Are you speakin' of this? It's the only thing I can recall that comes close to what you did. The Karastan berber had to be turned and tacked because the stairway was bowed about 9/16......... I had to tack to something.
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here's my worst for the week.....after heap of carpet installed throughout building did the stairs fitted nosings and the (peel'n'stick)insert....curled by the next morning,manuf,sent new batch and same thing so had to clean all peel'n'stick adhesive off and use contact.got paid for my time so no big deal just one of those things that installers go thru. hope everyone had a good week....nice work as always dobby.
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for the guys and gals who read 'best and worst'would love to see ur pics,anything you have done for the week-carpet,vinyl,wood,floor prepping,everything we do that is related to the floor take a pic and and share.....
dobby,must be great laying that style of cpt on a regular basis. it's not hard to see why you love what you do.
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Beautiful job Dobby , I was weened on Ax and the part about sewing it sent chills down my spine .. Back then we sewed everything and latexed the door jambs , and tractered them with a porcupine .. That to brings back fond memorys of my hand slipping and putting holes in my fingers ..
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here was my easiest for the week,church-take up was done b4 i got there all i had to do is stick the gear to the floor 1 long nosing at the fron 2 out the back and home by 2 with a pocket full of cash. sometimes you just have a win.
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A couple of weeks ago I posted photos of a narrow width axminster installation in an older building. Here’s a photo of the exterior. This week we returned to finish the remaining areas with companion field & border broadloom axminster.