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This discussion, "Body Art", in Flooring Potpourri (part of the category The Professional Forums), begins, "Originally Posted by barrycarlton
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welcome aboard!!!!!You'll like it here!!!!!
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I try not to judge somebody simply by their appearance, but if their appearance "shocks" me when I first see them, it can take a while to get past it. Fact is, if I had to choose between two otherwise equally qualified people, the one with the best appearance would win out. I think that's true of most employers. Who would want to take the chance of alienating even one customer if it could be avoided?
I'd like to welcome you again too, Jason - with what I hope is some gentle chastising:
Rule #7 - you broke it. Even without remembering rule 7, this at the end of the article you copied and pasted in your first post on TFP should have been a strong clue:
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I edited your post. Please take a look at it so you'll see what "fair use" is. We don't want no high falutin' lawyers comin' here tellin' me that I need a nother lawyer to defend myself from copyright infringement violations.
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Welcome aboard Jason .. I Say Live and Let Live ..
As long as you are clean , don't need a shave which is more offensive to me then a tattoo .. show up every day on time , and do quality work .. We are good to go ..
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I have to vote with Nick on this one. I remember what was the vogue in my formative years and am so glad my daughter didn;t follow in my footsteps (sex and drugs and rock'n roll/ tune in, turn on, drop out).
I too have a pierced ear... I did stop wearing fishing lures in it many years ago though...
Grew the hair back about 8 years ago. Lost the pony tail after an inspection with a particularly attractive mother was with me and had her toddler daughter and slightly older son. the son turns to the mother and says: "Mommy, why does that man have a pony tail?" From the mouths of babes! Stopped at a barber on the way home...
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I'd like to welcome you again too, Jason - with what I hope is some gentle chastising:
Rule #7 - you broke it. Even without remembering rule 7, this at the end of the article you copied and pasted in your first post on TFP should have been a strong clue:
I edited your post. Please take a look at it so you'll see what "fair use" is. We don't want no high falutin' lawyers comin' here tellin' me that I need a nother lawyer to defend myself from copyright infringement violations.
I'm sure you understand. And I know you meant well.
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Whoop's my bad. I wound up copying and pasting everything without even looken at it all. Just a paragraph. My bad.
Just trying to point out that we do need to think of what other people think. Esp. if we are in their homes.
Agreed. It's not "politically correct", but it's a fact of life - we ARE judged by our looks in many circumstances, and with each type of "look" there are sterotypes that go with them.
Being a female, I have encountered all kinds of reactions from homeowners. They don't know a thing about me other then my looks (female) and that inital shock of seeing me get out of the van, they often say things without thinking. But our "look" as a male/female married crew seems to immediately put people at ease. There's something "safe" about a female being present, especially when it's just the women and kids at home during the job.
One stereotype I often encounter is that since I'm female, I'm going to be pickier about what goes into the floor and more thourough on cleanup. Also, "design" questions are directed at me far more often then at my husband. When it's a question of looks, they come to me. But technical questions on HOW to do something, 99% of the time they go to him. It is what it is.
Whatever "look" you have, people are going to make subconscious (or conscious) associations with that.
From a guy who has worked in a hardrock mine, been a cowboy, a soldier and a construction worker.
I put myself thru college and have a nice technical position, doing drafting (AutoCAD) and provide technical support for Watts Radiant, and when I came here I had plenty of tattoos and piercings, but thankfully I can take the piercings out, and the tattoos can be covered.
Everyone here who knows me knows (From company picnics etc.) that I have tattoos but I prefer not to let them be too obvious during working hours.
Quite a few of us here in the office, including upper management have tattoos.
Personally I like them, and wouldnt trade mine for anything. They all have a story and bring a time back to my mind. I admire others tattoos and may even ask where they got them if they appeal to me.
If I see someone with "Arm sleeves" of tattoos, I generally keep an eye on them just to make sure they are civilized. (anyone else have experience with those "less civilised" but fun as heck people?)
I have worked with guys who are just a bit wild and I dont mind that either in the right context, but I undertand how tattoos can "brand" a person, and I do it too.
Basically, we all put our trousers on one leg at a time, and if a guy shows up when he is supposed to, and puts out quality work, the tattoos or piercings can be covered or dealt with according to their position.
My 2 cents worth!
I have several tat's, only 2 that are generally visible. One is on my neck, one on my forearm, it is the words "Honor Above All" over the Celtic symbol for victory, the neck tat is an 8 pronged cross. I can say, I can't recall anyone saying anything negative about them in a work environment, although, one of my bosses thought the neck tattoo was some kind of white supremacy thing.
I can't wear any jewelery, and i would not wear any on a job site even if I could. As long as people are clean and presentable, have half a brain, I am not going to knock them. Outward appearance do affect first impressions, but how you engage the customer as a person, how you interact with other workers and trades, far outweighs the negative stigma of a 'NON' offensive tattoo. I get to some jobs, despite my tats' because my appearance and demeanor are professional. They know I am not going to fart (yes, if I have to let wind, i will go outside), burp, scratch, stink, be rude, etc.
People I talk to have herd it but never use it. Called the union rep I'm trying to get into about my supply list and inquired about that particular seaming iron. Says he doesn't recommend it for someone new due to the price. But says it's a 'perfect tool'. Said the top guys are supplied the kool-glide seaming irons and shops usually cover all supplies. Majority of the residential jobs are done with it.
My bad.
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