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"Glueing rubber/vinyl baseboards," in the Flooring Potpourri forum, begins: "As a carpenter working in schools I'm looking for the best (enviro-safe) adhesive for attaching rubber cove baseboard. We use ..."

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Old October 29, 2008, 09:34 PM   #1
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Glueing rubber/vinyl baseboards


As a carpenter working in schools I'm looking for the best (enviro-safe) adhesive for attaching rubber cove baseboard. We use miles of the stuff, but are increasingly running into problems with the fumes-issue of our using contact-cement. (We use masks & have to do it after hours.)

I'm hearing that there are equally-good products being used...?

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Old October 29, 2008, 09:50 PM   #2
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Cove base adhesive.

Here's one company.
http://www.apacadhesives.com/covebase.html

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Old October 30, 2008, 05:58 AM   #3
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I use Mapei cove base adhesive.

Contact cement is good for outside corners, only.

The person replacing that covebase you have put up, is going to be cussing trying to remove it without destrying the wall.

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Old October 30, 2008, 12:59 PM   #4
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I use Mapei cove base adhesive.

Contact cement is good for outside corners, only.

The person replacing that covebase you have put up, is going to be cussing trying to remove it without destrying the wall.
I also use Mapei tubes for the large caulking gun with a nozzle to spread 3 nice beads on the back of the cove. Real easy and no odor. On a corner, skive out the back of the base where the 90 degree turn will be and put a bead of super glue on the top, inside for about 1" long and about 1/8" wide to keep the top from coming off. You may have to hold it for 10 seconds or so, but it works.

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Old October 30, 2008, 02:22 PM   #5
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I use the nozzle before .. To much glue , plugged up the middle hole , then threw it in the trash and went back to running one bead serpentine ..

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Old October 30, 2008, 02:47 PM   #6
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I use the nozzle before .. To much glue , plugged up the middle hole , then threw it in the trash and went back to running one bead serpentine ..
Well Nick, you need to take control of your tools. I will hold the gun almost vertical or 90 degrees to the base and apply the adhesive. Works for me.

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Old October 30, 2008, 03:00 PM   #7
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The person replacing that covebase you have put up, is going to be cussing trying to remove it without destrying the wall.[/QUOTE]

Soooo true. I once had to remove some base on a kitchen job that someone used contact cement and it pulled the outer layer of wood off the toe kicks. Impossible to separate. What a nightmare and mess that was. Use ONLY covebase adhesive.

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Old October 30, 2008, 03:16 PM   #8
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The person replacing that covebase you have put up, is going to be cussing trying to remove it without destrying the wall.
Soooo true. I once had to remove some base on a kitchen job that someone used contact cement and it pulled the outer layer of wood off the toe kicks. Impossible to separate. What a nightmare and mess that was. Use ONLY covebase adhesive.[/QUOTE]

I've seen cove put up with vinyl floor adhesive. You need to heat it up with a torch or heat gun to get it loose. Sometimes I just cut the toe off and go over with new.

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Old October 30, 2008, 06:45 PM   #9
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Re: Glueing rubber/vinyl baseboards


I am on the same page as 'Seam'. Use a large tube with the nozzle. I use hotmelt on OS corners. And I have also cut the toe off and adhered to the old on toekicks.

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Old October 30, 2008, 09:40 PM   #10
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Well, thank you all! I KNEW there had to be better ways.

Can I be assured that products like Mapei ARE durable? I work with all long-time carpies (all male) who don't trust anything new... They talk of pros having used products that are spread through a rig like a triple-headed caulking tube, then having the baseboards just fall away from the walls w/i 10 yrs. & that that product leaves a real mess of raised beads to get rid of....

True, contact cement generally peels the paper off the gyproc (about all that our walls are, other than concrete); have to be diligent about scoring along the top of the old baseboard before peeling it off.

I'll see if I can talk 'em into letting me give Mapei a try. Has anyone tried their new 'contact adhesive'?

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Old October 31, 2008, 05:48 AM   #11
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You say the base falls of the wall within 1-10 years? Is the base by any chance being put up over vinyl wall paper? If so you could be getting plasticizer migration causing the adhesive to fail. That is the only time in all my years of putting up base I had a failure. I had to go back and cut the paper about a 1/2" below the base line.
Plasticizer migration the adhesive will become very slimey.

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Old October 31, 2008, 08:06 AM   #12
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Some rubber/vinyl base products have to be cleaned with solvent before applyin the adhesive, and some need to be scuffed up on the back to adhere properly......

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Some rubber/vinyl base products have to be cleaned with solvent before applyin the adhesive, and some need to be scuffed up on the back to adhere properly......
I've learned that the hard way lately. I was using Burke base and Taylor adhesive and the base released from the glue. Burke's mold release caused it, therefore on the rest of the boxes I had to wipe the release agent off prior to gluing. What a pain in the butt.

Taylors even states that you may have to do this on their tube.

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Old October 31, 2008, 10:20 AM   #14
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Yep it is a pain. I wanna know when they're gonna start puttin the adhesive strips that they put on carpet base on the rubber base. Don't know what kindda glue that is, but it sure is sticky. Ya just pull the paper off and stick it.......If anybody knows what kindda glue that is, and where you can get it, let me know............

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Daris, I'm sure you are aware that not only can plasticizer migration occur on vinyl wall paper but it can also happen with oil based or latex painted surfaces.

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