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June 23, 2009, 09:24 PM
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san diego jim
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 149
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
Go to college and get a degree in business. Then you can take your carpet knowledge and market it better. That includes getting a license and eventually a store. Selling and running a contracting business is as much of a trade as actually installing is. There is a lot to learn whatever you do. What you should not do is sit and wait for something good to happen ....
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June 23, 2009, 09:48 PM
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a Floor Pro
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,764
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
I'm not sure that's the answer - I'm working on a college degree in my older age (don't say HAHA because I look young, we have lots of grandkids) and have the opportunity to take over a flooring store someday, but don't really want to ... it is rough. I do think installers could better market themselves, however. Everyone is internet shopping these days, so have a website with your art displayed. Need help? I can help, making websites is my side job. Gotta have a side job, business is soooo slow right now.
Tia
san diego jim said
Go to college and get a degree in business. Then you can take your carpet knowledge and market it better. That includes getting a license and eventually a store. Selling and running a contracting business is as much of a trade as actually installing is. There is a lot to learn whatever you do. What you should not do is sit and wait for something good to happen ....
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June 23, 2009, 10:37 PM
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a Floor Pro
Join Date: May 2006
Location: washington state/everett
Posts: 1,561
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
and the youngsters that do get into it are slackers/kicker jockeys  i call em kickngoers i use to do a lot of restretchs for a shop who had one  i think he is still there  all he had was a stair tool and a kicker,and hammer (one of those hatchet on back ones)   gave me work though 
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June 24, 2009, 09:21 PM
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a Floor Pro
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,764
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
That's so funny - we had a young man who had a power stretcher, then we kept getting call-backs for restretches. His helper finally admitted that they never pulled it out, it was too old and rusty to even use. However, the pisshead installer told all the customers that restretches were normal and just pay him to come back when it was time. He called it job security. Seriously, that makes me ill. I have installers who have never been called back for a restretch in 20 or 30 years!
Here's a crazy story ... My husband (carpet installer) once had his van broken into in the night and they stole all his tools. He woke up in the morning and had NO tools. He made an insurance claim, got new stuff, and then several months later, the farmers were taking down the fields and found his power stretcher. HA! It was the most valuable tool the idiots took, but they probably didn't know what it was and threw it in a corn field!
Tia
DJ said
and the youngsters that do get into it are slackers/kicker jockeys i call em kickngoers i use to do a lot of restretchs for a shop who had one i think he is still there all he had was a stair tool and a kicker,and hammer (one of those hatchet on back ones) gave me work though 
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Last edited by FlooringGirl; June 24, 2009 at 09:40 PM.
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June 24, 2009, 09:26 PM
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The Living Dead
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,810
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
FlooringGirl said
That's so funny - we had a young man who had a power stretcher, then we kept getting call-backs for restretches. His helper finally admitted that they never pulled it out, it was too old and rusty to even use. However, the pisshead installer told all the customers that restretches were normal and just pay him to come back when it was time. He called it job security. Seriously, that makes me ill. I have installers who have never been called back for a restretch in 20 or 30 years!
Here's a crazy sotry ... My husband (carpet installer) once had his van broken into in the night and they stole all his tools. He woke up in the morning and had NO tools. He made an insurance claim, got new stuff, and then several months later, the farmers were taking down the fields and found his power stretcher. HA! It was the most valuable tool the idiots took, but they probably didn't know what it was and threw it in a corn field!
Tia
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Had a retailer that would get pissed off, (Aarons Interiors) if I power stretched leased properties, he had accounts with. He made a killing off restretches.
That is the direction they left when they stole the tools! They said screw this heavy POS, and left it right there after their arms were 3" longer each, and their lungs about to explode from huffing and puffing.
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June 24, 2009, 09:55 PM
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a Floor Pro
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,764
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
Made me laugh again! I'm sure those little country boys went, "what the hell is this for? We better dump it". The amazing part was the phone call months later saying it was found by a farmer. Wow!
I have had many a landlord ask me to give cheaper labor for kickin' it, but I have some really good guys who refuse to have their work screw up down the road. They would walk on me for that, so I don't even bother asking.
Tia
Floorguy said
Had a retailer that would get pissed off, (Aarons Interiors) if I power stretched leased properties, he had accounts with. He made a killing off restretches.
That is the direction they left when they stole the tools! They said screw this heavy POS, and left it right there after their arms were 3" longer each, and their lungs about to explode from huffing and puffing.
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June 24, 2009, 09:58 PM
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Semi-Retired
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 6,226
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
At my age, kickin' it would be harder work. I'd have to charge more. When I moved back to my hometown in 1992, I worked 40 hours a week for 5 months doing repairs. All from one installer.
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June 24, 2009, 10:08 PM
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a Floor Pro
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,764
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Re: Questions about flooring as a career.
[FONT="Verdana"]Exactly - we have a fellow now, his helper retired a few years ago, but he still manages to install over 100 yards a days alone in 5 or 6 hours. Then, he got water on the knee and had to get surgery. He may not have any problems with his jobs, but he's probably kicking way too hard.
Rusty, you sound like my husband, he wants to charge me extra for everything. Pretty soon he'll charge me for smiling at a customer when he gets there. HAHA. He has been at this so long he hates it bad.
Tia/FONT]
rusty baker said
At my age, kickin' it would be harder work. I'd have to charge more.
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