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Old July 6, 2009, 01:29 PM   #1
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I have a newer addition with two rooms that has a cement slab and one room has ceramic tile laid. The addition is about 1 inch lower than the main house. I recently floated engineered hardwood throughout the remaining house and would like to continue the flooring to these rooms. What is your suggestion? Can I pour self-leveling cement over the existing floor to raise the floor the remaining height? Should I use a primer over the old slab? And can I pour over the ceramic tile without needing to rip it up? Since one room does not have tile, it is 1/4 inch lower than the one with tile, so the height is anywhere between 1/4" to 1" to raise.

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Old July 6, 2009, 01:45 PM   #2
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Yes, you should use primer, and I would probably not recommend you level over the tile. It could cause the tiles to pop loose.......

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Old July 6, 2009, 03:30 PM   #3
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I'm not familiar with any SLC's that can be poured an inch thick. That would be a lot of SLC, and very expensive.

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What would be a good alternative?

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Old July 6, 2009, 04:57 PM   #5
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What would be a good alternative?


I would float two layers of ½" plywood, over a moisture barrier

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Old July 6, 2009, 06:46 PM   #6
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I have a newer addition with two rooms that has a cement slab and one room has ceramic tile laid. The addition is about 1 inch lower than the main house. I recently floated engineered hardwood throughout the remaining house and would like to continue the flooring to these rooms. What is your suggestion? Can I pour self-leveling cement over the existing floor to raise the floor the remaining height? Should I use a primer over the old slab? And can I pour over the ceramic tile without needing to rip it up? Since one room does not have tile, it is 1/4 inch lower than the one with tile, so the height is anywhere between 1/4" to 1" to raise.
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Hi micspoon. Hire a local pro who has experience with this product. This job sounds way to big for a do-it-yourself project. If you are very experienced with either flooring or concrete work and have the right tools you might want to give it a shot. I recommend you don't.

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Old July 6, 2009, 09:51 PM   #7
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At one inch, you definitely will want to use aggregate. I would not advise a DIYer to do this themselves...

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Old July 7, 2009, 12:16 PM   #8
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My advice (well what we would do in the u.k) is use a ardex k15 with aggerate chippings for extra sturdyness up to the tile lever let dry, prime the whole lot including your tiles and then k15 over everything to give you a perfectly flat floor all one level

Probly wouldn't reccomend this if your a diyer

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