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Old July 8, 2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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Being an avid student of our industries history, it is always a thrill to learn and do something 'old' that is, at least, 'new' to me. Recently we were contracted to install a figured venetian carpet runner on a stairway.

As we all know, or at least should pretend to know, a venetian carpet is a simple warp faced carpet, woven on a simple loom in sequenced striped designs. The addition of figures to a venetian carpet would require additional harnesses and treadling sequences and, when finished, would produce a cloth that would be known as an ingrain, not a venetian.

The carpet shown in the photo is what we today would call a hybrid. A cross between two different objects bearing strong similarities to both. Here we have a warped face carpet in a stripe design like a venetian and we also have the addition of a subtle figured pattern, like an ingrain.

This design was taken, with permission, from period archives at the Victoria & Albert Museum in London where it is described as; a figured venetian. So, there you have it. One more piece to the puzzle. {{and yes Daris, I have saved you a cutting for your backing sets along with a few others. Email me your address when you get a moment and I will get them set out}}

Thanks for letting me share.

Dobby

PS: If the stairway appears skewed, do not adjust your monitor. This stairway is original to the house, circa 1822, and was one of the most out of whack stairs I have ever worked on. In fact, the addition of the runner hides a great amount of the whacky~ness.
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Old July 8, 2009, 05:00 PM   #2
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As a review, here are a couple of photos; the striped carpet is a typical venetian and the figured carpet is a typical figured ingrain.

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Old July 8, 2009, 06:02 PM   #3
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As always very educational. You can send me a pc of the carpet if that is ok.
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Dobby,

Its great to have you posting again.


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I don't want to hijack your thread, but take notice of the riser vs. tread relationship. Today we mostly have 7 1/2 rise and 10 inch treads. This looks just about the opposite, definately not Basic Building Code compliant.

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Old July 8, 2009, 08:17 PM   #6
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I don't want to hijack your thread, compliant.
.......but since ya did, I am runnin into that very thing in my town. The older huoses seem to have been built without any standard rules applied. Really fun sometimes seein how the oldtimers came up with some of their ideas.....

Ok, back on topic. Sorry fer Rg's interuption.........

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