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Old July 22, 2011, 09:31 PM   #1
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Hardwood edge around curved stair opening


I'm about to lay some oak hardwood on the upper floor of my house and am a little stumped about how to finish the edge around the curved opening for my staircase.

I've heard of a bendable/flexible nosing, but can't seem to find any in my local area. Whatever I use, it would have to fit in somehow with the stair nosing.

The existing floor is carpeted and there is an overhang on the curved area, My initial plan was to use some 1/4"x2" oak straping and attach it to the overhang and then butt the boards up tight to this.

According to to the chief designer (my wife) this is a rather simple and inelegant solution. Therefore, it just won't do.

I've attached a scale diagram of the problem area.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Old July 22, 2011, 10:03 PM   #2
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This is probably what you are looking for: Flexitions - Flexible Transition Moldings - Products

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Old July 23, 2011, 12:40 AM   #3
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A router with a bullnose or round over bit comes to mind.

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Old July 23, 2011, 06:44 AM   #4
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Thanks for the inputs guys.

The Flexitions seems like it would be perfect. Unfortunately, none of the online vendors that I've seen will ship to Canada and I can't seem to find anyone local who sells it.

A router with a bullnose or round over bit comes to mind

I take it that you're suggesting some kind of DIY curved nosing? I'm not clear on how I would do that.

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Old July 23, 2011, 11:15 AM   #5
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How was the carpet finished to the edge you're working with? What are you fitting to, sheetrocked wall? Are you fitting to a bullnose at the top of the stair case?

If the Flexitions trim would work, maybe one of the guys here that sell retail, could order it for you and ship it to you???

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Rybren said View Post
Thanks for the inputs guys.

The Flexitions seems like it would be perfect. Unfortunately, none of the online vendors that I've seen will ship to Canada and I can't seem to find anyone local who sells it.

A router with a bullnose or round over bit comes to mind

I take it that you're suggesting some kind of DIY curved nosing? I'm not clear on how I would do that.
I have used the Flexition reducer. Quite price but worth it if you can get the cost past the customer.

If I'm not mistaken you will not find anyone that stocks it. Special order only.

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Old July 23, 2011, 08:17 PM   #7
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How was the carpet finished to the edge you're working with? What are you fitting to, sheetrocked wall? Are you fitting to a bullnose at the top of the stair case?

If the Flexitions trim would work, maybe one of the guys here that sell retail, could order it for you and ship it to you???
The carpet wraps around a bullnose and butts up to the drywall. The bullnose is nailed on and I plan to remove it when I do the floor.

I will be installing a bullnose at the top of the stairs.

I spent the morning visiting various flooring dealers, looking for Flexition or something similar. I did find a flexible nosing - it's essentially a 16 foot long oak nosing that has been cut into multiple strips - all fitted via tongue and groove. You have to install each stip individually (starting will the piece farthest from the nose) and then glue and nail each subsequent strip until they are all installed. At $210 per 16' section, the price isn't outrageous, but the dealer did say that it is a real pain in the rear to install. He didn't have any in stock and couldn't get any in for a few weeks.

It seems to me that the Flexition would be easier. If I can't find any I may end up going with my original plan of ending the boards flush with the curve of the opening and then installing some casing to hide the ends.

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Old July 23, 2011, 09:59 PM   #8
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The carpet wraps around a bullnose and butts up to the drywall. The bullnose is nailed on and I plan to remove it when I do the floor.

I will be installing a bullnose at the top of the stairs.

I spent the morning visiting various flooring dealers, looking for Flexition or something similar. I did find a flexible nosing - it's essentially a 16 foot long oak nosing that has been cut into multiple strips - all fitted via tongue and groove. You have to install each stip individually (starting will the piece farthest from the nose) and then glue and nail each subsequent strip until they are all installed. At $210 per 16' section, the price isn't outrageous, but the dealer did say that it is a real pain in the rear to install. He didn't have any in stock and couldn't get any in for a few weeks.

It seems to me that the Flexition would be easier. If I can't find any I may end up going with my original plan of ending the boards flush with the curve of the opening and then installing some casing to hide the ends.
Rememberin that you now have a slick floor open to the lower floor, a raised piece of casing with a small 1/4 rd, would be the ticket......

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Old July 24, 2011, 11:21 AM   #9
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Is this a solid hardwood or engineered?

You could always go to a cabinetshop and have them make you a curved bullnosed transition.
Far better then Flexitions.

Not sure what cp is suggesting but it sounds like a trip hazard to me

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Not sure what cp is suggesting but it sounds like a trip hazard to me
...only if the railin has been removed and yer takin a flyin leap anyway.....
I ain't sayin to do this at the step, just the curved openin......
Which brings up another question. Can a guy be so smart that a commoner ain't gonna understand 'im?........

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Old July 24, 2011, 06:10 PM   #11
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The floor will be 3/4" solid oak. I imagine that a custom transition for about 18' of curve would be rather pricey.

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Old July 26, 2011, 08:46 AM   #12
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The floor will be 3/4" solid oak. I imagine that a custom transition for about 18' of curve would be rather pricey.
And Flexitions isn't outrageous??

With solid hardwood, what you are trying to do is easily accomplished with a router and bullnose bit.

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I have to agree with Stullis on this, I have seen carpenters and experienced cabinet makers machine this sort of thing up in minutes.
And as the misses is in charge I would spend the money and get summit bespoke made up, yes it may cost you a bit more than you want to spend and may put a large dent in your pocket, but on the bright side of life atleast you'll get a quite life and the good lady won't keep bringing up and pointing out your attempt at doing it or finishing the edge off every time she walks past it. We all know how painfully anouying that can be.

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Old July 27, 2011, 04:57 AM   #14
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You are indeed a wise man and must have been married for many years to provide such sage advice.

My wife's favourite saying is...

"I'm not happy til you're not happy"


To get back to our regularly schedule thread, I'm still not quite getting what stullis is suggesting. Are you saying I should cut some stock to follow the shape of the opening and then round-over the edge?

Here's a photo of what I'm working with. I have not yet removed the square bullnose that the carpeting wrapped over.

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Old July 27, 2011, 06:07 AM   #15
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The picture sends us back to square one!!

How did you plan on handling the balusters and newell post for the railing?

Once we have this information we can proceed, in a more informed manner and give some better advice.

Here is a link to pictures of all kinds of stairs.
Stair Parts | Stair Treads | Stair Hardware | Wrought Iron Railings | Iron Baluster | Wood Stairs | Staircase Parts - StairSupplies™

Notice the base of these balusters.
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