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Old February 26, 2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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Hardwood Floor Diagonal Install


Here is my dilema.. I decided to put a hardwood floor in our cabin. Bought the White ash and prepping the floor for the install. Today I ran across the idea installing it diagonally and of course since I want it to be unique as possible I love the idea, not the work... With that being said I'm looking for tips on how to do this diagonal if it's even possible. I'm sure the walls are not square and I've never done it before. I don't quite understand starting in the middle of the floor and some talk about adding a slip tongue so you move in opposite directions? I get the point just not how to do it. Any tips Thanks!!

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Old February 26, 2009, 04:21 PM   #2
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If the walls are not square, and angle install is perfect to hide that, instead of exaggerate it.

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Old February 26, 2009, 04:41 PM   #3
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Awesome.. I've thought my way through it... The kitchen area is small so I plan to rip one the strips so it has no tongue and angle nail through it to separate the two square areas which are offset kinda like an "L". Can I angle staple through that board as I plan to run the strips the long way in the top portion of the "L" to create two sqaures. The botom of the "L" square will run diagonal and the top straight.. I can hide uneveness behind the cabinets. When I put the slip tongue in should it be glued in the groove on each side or should I actually glue those two backed boards to the floor as well? This seems like a possible buckle point?

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Old February 26, 2009, 06:29 PM   #4
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I can't quite picture what you are describing, as far the separating the two squares, but I can help you with the slip tongue section. Once you decide where in the middle to start, snap a chalk line, and lay out a few rows, using the off cuts, cut some blocks 6-9 " long. aling your first row on the chalk line, and place the tongue of your backer blocks, into the groove of the first row. I use my finish nailer to put 2-3 nails in each backer block. With those backers for support, I can nail off the first, and successive rows, with out them moving. After a few rows are in place, I can remove the backer blocks by sacking them sideways, to disengage them, without prying them up, and perhaps damaging the existing rows.
You can then fit the slip tongue, use a little glue, and then nail the back side of that first row down as well. You can then continue in either direction.

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Old February 26, 2009, 09:44 PM   #5
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Diagonal are very pretty installations but your waste factor will go up and you will be cutting all four walls. A bit extra labor.

I too am having trouble visualizing your layout too. Even a hand drawn sketch would clear that up if you can post it. Better yet, post a photo or three of the existing area.

Of course we will be expecting to see some photos after you install the floor

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Old February 27, 2009, 06:03 AM   #6
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Not sure if this worked?

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I plan to run a board stripped of it's tongue across the short distance to create two squares.
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Old February 27, 2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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If you understand how the slip tongue works, you can easily lay it all the same way. Easier to install and for my eye it will look better. You can easily put the 45 either way (upper right to lower left or upper left to lower right). Keeping it all running one way will expand the space to the eye. Changing direction may make the area appear smaller. You will also create another location where the slip tongue is need, and if I understand what you are contemplating, you will need to groove the angle on a bunch of the strips where they meet the long dimension of the changed direction. Worse, if you want to miter corners where tyhe change occurs, you will have to groove all the ends. Pretty sophisticated detail work if you are not used to doing it.

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Old February 27, 2009, 09:38 AM   #8
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So if I understand you I am best off to calculate the 45 from the two furthest centers and do the entire area as a diagonal will be less work. The upper portion gets covered so much by cabinets and such I thought it would be simpler... So if I want to butt any diagonal board against a border in the room...say around a fireplace area or a cutout area by the front door I will need to groove it? I thought I could cut the tongue off the border and just butt up the strip? When I put the cabinets back in I assume no portion can be screwed to the floor due to expansion contraction as well?

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Old February 27, 2009, 10:06 AM   #9
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Yes you will have to create a tongue/groove or groove/groove with a slip joint for all joints. You will get high edges otherwise- maybe not when installed but best case, seasonally.

On a nail down floor, you can anchor the cabinets to the floor. Although your floor is relatively expensive, it would be a tremendous labor saver to install the floor before you put the cabinets back! You probably will not use that much additional material to go under them.

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Old February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM   #10
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So... I need to understand thaat what I am trying to do may not be very easy... I have attached a drawing. I want the diagonal floor to end outside the box drawn in front of the front door so it jogs down just a bit to put a rug so when entering you can take your shooes off and put them there without ever hitting the wood floor. I was thinking just a border board or what's the right way? The wood floor is 3/4" thick so it would probably only be a 1/2" variation.
Am I nuts?
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