Carpet Backings

rgfloor · May 31, 2009, 04:48 PM

I thought I would start a topic on carpet backings.

Roland or Daris should be good at this. Here is one I saw recently, it is not your typical action back. It is a flat woven polypropylene secondary back. Is there a specific name for it? I think the piece was a Mohawk product.

Peter Kodner · May 31, 2009, 05:01 PM

When you say flat woven, do you mean ribbon filament polypropylene?

TFP Admin · May 31, 2009, 05:08 PM

I felt this would make an excellent educational topic, so I moved it to the Industry Training forum - and I made it a sticky. These kinds of topics we are a little more strict about keeping on topic. If you post off-topic comments, staff will try to move them to a separate topic. Please try to keep your comments and questions "carpet backings" specific, if you can.

Thanks,

Jim

Daris Mulkin · May 31, 2009, 06:04 PM

It looks like it could be opti back. Its a Mohawk back and the samples I got came from a higher end product. It was a Horizon piece.

Daris

rgfloor · May 31, 2009, 06:30 PM

Peter Kodner said

When you say flat woven, do you mean ribbon filament polypropylene?

Yes, that would describe it.

The funny part was that 1/2 the job had a 5 pic action back and 1/2 has this back. That was not the reason for the inspection, I just found it curious.

Daris Mulkin · May 31, 2009, 07:15 PM

Two different backing huh? Was it the same material? I have seen different backing on the same line but two different run numbers. I may be what they have on hand at the time thing.

Daris.

rgfloor · May 31, 2009, 07:47 PM

After much discussion and going back and forth I was finally able to obtain the roll numbers. The first two were within 20 # of each other and the third was 457# different, it was the one with a differnt backing. Fortunatelay it was cut up for bound runners only, so the need for a perfect match was not there. As I stated this was not the reason for the inspection, only my desire to have a complete history of this job.

rgfloor · May 31, 2009, 07:53 PM

Next backing: SofBac, it is so much different than when it was first released. Now it seems to be Action Back with a little bit of polyester fibers on the outside of the back. The days of HEAVY fleece are gone.

Floorguy · May 31, 2009, 08:40 PM

Now we are playing name that backing...

Daris Mulkin · May 31, 2009, 09:35 PM

Without seeing the actual piece Floor I would say it is unitary motion stitch, or do you still have a piece of the old Phillips typar?
I'll stick with the unitary.
Daris

Peter Kodner · June 1, 2009, 05:48 AM

I think he is messing with us and it is the scrim side of some falt rubber pad

My first thought was Typar.

Floorguy · June 1, 2009, 06:00 AM

That is typar a pulled out of an old trailer house.

DJ · June 1, 2009, 08:01 AM

looks like karalock to me. floor, by the way..... i'm still installing heavy fleece carpet

its called luxuaryback

Daris Mulkin · June 1, 2009, 08:34 AM

DJ~Luxury back is not that old. Its a fairly new product from Beaulieu. Funny thing with them was that when we were doing the backing chains for CFI, they wouldn't answer us back for all the install instructions. From what I have heard they aren't having any real problems with it. When it came out I was really leery cause there is no action back under the fleece for stability.

Daris