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Old March 20, 2007, 08:26 PM   #16
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I remmember so many tmes my wife has said don't you think it is time to hang up, i say David and i have only been talking for an hour. You all do know that it his beter half that has tought him everything.
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Old March 29, 2007, 03:07 PM   #17
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and she is so much better looking than him also, smarter, more charming, and as sweet as southern ice tea!

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Old March 29, 2007, 06:32 PM   #18
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Re: David Hunt: Awards timeThank you David & Charlene Hunt.


We would like to thank two of the greatest teachers in the flooring industry for all of their inspiration, shared information, and always welcome input.


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Thank you David & Charlene Hunt.

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Old March 29, 2007, 06:46 PM   #19
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Love seeing a hand stitched seam in a Wilton...
Again, good work- you should be proud you do things right

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Old March 29, 2007, 07:40 PM   #20
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Darian .Word of advice not critism , look and observe your stanton star border job. What I would have done in that case is . Cut off the outside edge of your border.As you can see that is an extra 3/4 of an inch. It would have given you more of a star. Also I would have move it in on the field. Wholla 2 full stars and it would more consistant and more pleasing to the eye. Sometimes professionalism takes over. In this matter observe and think lokk at it a couple times. Do you use a scrim tape on your stretch ins.


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Old March 29, 2007, 07:44 PM   #21
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Thank you.

It is because of people like David & Charlene, and all the rest of you on these forums who share your knowledge that make it possible for those of us who want to learn and carry on this awesome craft to be able to do so.

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Old March 29, 2007, 07:59 PM   #22
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Harry,

We figured that out a few cuts too late. But live and learn, we definitely do not claim to know it all. And yes we use scrim tape on all stretch-ins.

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Old March 29, 2007, 08:06 PM   #23
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Darian only being sincere. Just trying to help.

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Old March 29, 2007, 08:27 PM   #24
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Harry,

We appreciate all the help we can get. It's not easy being the only one in your area trying to learn this. It's completely new to us. This was our first hand sewn, woven inlay. Second hand sewn woven period. But I will say that the client was beyond thrilled when she walked in and saw the completed job. We learned from it, and you can bet the next one will have the stars centered in the out fill. You can not see it, but the diamonds in the red wilton are centered in the out fill. We did that room after the star room.

As for professionalism, we actually lost almost an entire day because our pattern on the back wall, in the out fill of the red room, was off no more than 1/8 of an inch (the customer probably would not have ever seen it) and we took the entire strip apart and re-sewed it. David taught us that.

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Old March 29, 2007, 08:50 PM   #25
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Darian I did notice the red room and it did look great. I notice you double thread . Why? There is no reason to double thread. Sometimes it is to much thread. Single thread ,proper tention and scrim on a stretch in is more than sufficient. Also there is no need for all that locking stitch. And you can separete your stitches a little more . We all live and learn.

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Old March 29, 2007, 10:33 PM   #26
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Harry, you pointed out things that 99% of consumers and I bet 87.34924% of installers would have never noticed. You are a gem for pointing out details like this.
I would love...... and others here would also like to see some photos of your stitching in different applications.... and maybe in different materials too.

You know when to use a single thread and when to use a double thread..... I suppose single threads are better left for mitres? ............. or does it depend on the material's make up or construction?

No need for double threading?
I don't do woven material very often, but was taught to do double threading form my grandfather............ If sewing was involved, it was always double threaded.... no matter the material being sewn.

No need for "all that locking stitch" ?
Once again..... everything I do has been done with ..."that locking stitch" as I was taught.

Grandpa never went to CFI shool as you know..... He learned it from someone, and passed it on to me.................... I LOVE being corrected..... really.
I want to know how to do it correctly......... Usually, (I mean 99% of the time), I opt for going way overboard when in doubt.

Please help us out here Harry..... David, you too.

I think the sewing do's and don't do's would be an article in itself..... Hint, hint.


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Old March 29, 2007, 10:34 PM   #27
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I use to double thread the old jute backs , the thinner carpets i would single thread , and latex the back ..

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Old March 29, 2007, 10:57 PM   #28
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Lo down I never use a double thread. Yes lock it at the ends . Lock it when there is a small pattern . Lo down Ask the questions. There are times and circumstances when to do different application. Lo down 98 % of my work is woven /. I am sure you gentlemen obseved on the floorums what I am capable of doing. Alot depends on the material. Listen the finer the material you do not want to use a double stitch. I dont care who you are or what you do. What does the sewing do for the material . What does the scrim tape do for the material/ Where is the real added strenght from . These questions are for David. When I quote It is a debate .When David quotes no matter what to you gentlemen he is correct. David observe what I had wrote. Tell me Are my answers wrong. Honestly David is a great woven expert no doubt. I had e-mailed him personally to let him know how much I respect him. David is a knowledgable and great installer . Yet he is not the only one that knows the business. As I said to Darian with all my sincerety, I was giving good advice . It is really hard to teach a person if one knows it all. What makes excellence is when one could understand. Go to the floorums and look at my photo albums. Tell me what you think . Obvious other professionals love my work. My last post about lois de poortere . That is what you could expect out of that carpet . That is the only reason I posted that. That carpet in actuality looks great . The pictures I showed are no justice at all. What does a blind stitch on that material consist of Im sure David knows . The time is far more superior than the average stitch.


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Old March 29, 2007, 11:09 PM   #29
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Harry, about the previously mentioned single/double thread issue...
This is a photo of the landing I sewed up................ On a landing, because of it's use or abuse, what warrants a double stitch? I always figured that more is better.............. You know.......... It's a 'guy' thing.

Remember in your response that us 'action back' guys think quite different and are used to thinking 1 1/2% stretch in width to be ideal.

OK. most wovens stretch slightly more than zero in width................ putting tremendous tension at on the seam................ in this situation.......... single, or double stitching? ............... or single stitching with closer stitches? How tight is 'tight' ?

Thread cost is certainly not a factor............. so what is?

You have a great opportunity to inform a lot of us here at TFP on this issue. I mean... I can sew............... but only the way I was taught. You sew from a totally different background.

David... you and Harry ought to team up and make us morons appear educated to the general public. I may not be smart, but dagnamit, I want to 'appear' smart!!!

I think a lot of us here would benefit greatly from just the very basics of sewing different kinds of woven materials.
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Old March 29, 2007, 11:23 PM   #30
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Thread cost is certainly not a factor so what is. Professionalism. Lo down once again whether or not you double stitch . There is no need to . Lo -down Im sorry I come off the way I do. If me and David were to team up we would be the tag team champions. What would happen in that case we would learn techniques from one another. Look the guy I hired now . He did work for Oprah Winfrey and etc I dont want to mention anymore. It is a game of learning. We all do it. I am not your enemy.

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