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Old August 15, 2010, 02:13 PM   #1
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I have been asked more and more lately to do ceramic.
I sold all my tile tools several years ago and looking to replace them.

Wet saw- I think I am either going to get the DeWalt (I found one with a stand and 2 extra blades)for $850 w/ free shipping and no sales tax.
Or a MK-101 from Lowe's for $695 but, no stand and only one blade.
This is about the price range I was looking to spend.
I had a 101 years ago and it seemed bullet proof.

For a tile cutter the Tomecanic super cut.

For cutting backer board is a Fiber shear or a Fiber cement saw a better choice?

For mixing I have a few cordless drills but, I don't think mixing mortar is too good for them.
Is a heavy duty corded drill good enough or should I get something made for mixing?

How about a quick drive screw gun for backer board screws?
How well do they work for this?

Any opinions or suggestions are welcome.
More questions to follow, I'm sure
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Old August 15, 2010, 02:27 PM   #2
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I have a Dewalt wet saw and i love it. to me its easier to clean ,disassemble and carry than the mk's i have used.and its a Dewalt.....

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Old August 15, 2010, 02:39 PM   #3
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I have the Tomcanic cutter, I love it for the big stuff, well made and accurate.

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Old August 15, 2010, 03:00 PM   #4
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I've had the MK 101 Pro for probably 10 years now, and it's still working well. I've had to do very little maintenance on it and I've gone through quite a few blades. I haven't heard a lot of reviews on the DeWalt but what I've heard has been good. I think by the time you get the MK and a stand, you'll have spent about the same as if you bought the DeWalt. The blades that come with those are fine to get you started, but you may find that you'll want to replace it fairly soon. Don't go cheap on the blade. A good blade on a cheap saw will still work pretty well, but a crappy blade on a top-of-the-line saw is about as efficient as breaking the tile over your knee.

For CBU, I use a grinder with a 4" diamond turbo blade. While a skilsaw with the 7" blade will make straight cuts a little faster and easier than the grinder, the grinder will make smaller cuts and circular cuts much easier. I find it better to work with just the one tool, and it doubles as tile cutter for cuts I can't make with the wet saw. Of course, whenever possible I use Ditra in lieu of CBU. While the material cost is higher, the benefits of Ditra over CBU make the product well worth the extra cost. It's much lighter (323 sf weight about 40 lbs., compared to several hundred lbs. for the same sf in CBU), cuts with a utility knife (no dust), no screws/nails needed, and no joints to tape and mud. There is the extra time involved to fill all the cutback cavities, but you're using unmodified thinset which gives you a little more cost savings.

For a mixing drill, I have had a Bosch 1/2" drill for quite a few years now and it's still going strong. I've had a Milwaukee and another off-brand drill, neither of which held up like the Bosch. I prefer it over a mixing drill because the Bosch is also a hammer drill which comes in handy for drilling masonry. 1/2" Drill with Dual Torque Ranges/ Model: 1169VSR

I have a quick drive screw gun, but haven't used it on CBU much since I'm using Ditra most of the time now. Make sure you get one that will drive the shorter screws. A lot of times the only screws I can get are 2" long or longer. It's always best to use screws that are the thickness of the CBU+underlayment/subfloor, or as close to that as you can get. They're much faster and easier than driving standard screws with a drill, even when considering the extra cost of the screws.

I've migrated over to the larger snap cutter in the past few years because I was doing so much large format tile. I didn't find it necessary to keep a smaller cutter around for the smaller tile, but it would be handy when working in a small area like a bathroom or laundry room. The larger cutters can take up too much space and get in the way. With so much of the harder porcelain tile being used these days, I find myself going to the saw for every cut. Some of those tiles don't lend themselves to snap-cutting. It's frustrating to have to go to the saw every time, but some tile just won't be snapped. Keeping a good cutting wheel on your cutter is the key to clean, sharp cuts.

Good luck with your re-entry to tile installation. Hope it works well for you. We're always here to help if you need us.

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Old August 15, 2010, 05:53 PM   #6
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I have a MK-101 and the Dewalt 24000. The Dewalt is way better in that the table rolls on the rails, the MK wants to twist in the runner thing on the left so you have to hold the table straight when pushing it forward. I have read many discussions of these two tools good and bad, I believe that the best choice for a saw of this price level is the Dewalt.

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Old August 16, 2010, 05:33 PM   #7
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Perles ME120 mixer is they way to go for a mixer.

I will never go back to using a drill for this type of mixing.


A shear cuts down on the dust but I try to use other products than CBU if possible.

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Old September 1, 2010, 04:37 PM   #8
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Update, I went to order the DeWalt saw on Monday and they just sold the last one and I needed it today so I bought the MK101 from Lowes.

I rented a Kent (cement board)sheer today and that works excelent.
I think it is a Porter Cable drill.
I need to get one a.s.a.p.


I bought a new Dewalt hammer drill for mixing (for now).

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Old September 1, 2010, 11:52 PM   #9
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You go Donnie.......

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