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Old May 27, 2011, 10:04 AM   #1
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Cushioned Luxury Vinyl - Reviews?


Hello,
I have a large kitchen with 12x12 ceramic tiles. We changes the configuration and there are some "gaps" that go down to the plywood and chips and nicks from 23 years of use. I was going to rip it all up and start again, but we ran into a HUGE problem upstairs in the tiny master bath with the same tiles - they were laid right over OSB plywood with what looks like Liquid nails as the mastic - and when you try to take the tile up it holds onto the plywood for dear life. It took us almost 15 hours to chip up the tile in a small 7x4 bath - and it came up in 1/2 inch or smaller pieces.. It tore the heck out of the plywood and now we have to replace that too. Sigh.

Back to the kitchen - we don't want to chip up a 23 x 13 foot kitchen - I don't think we will still be married if I ask him to help on that one! I want to put something over it and was thinking of the luxury line of cushioned vinyl sheet. I want to put it right over the tile - it is chipped but down VERY securely, so do I have to fill in the grout indent lines with some sort of leveler or will the thick vinyl hide that? I see a lot of people say to glue it down - but the store says not to except at the doors.
Also- there are several kinds and would love to hear your thoughts on what product is best. It will be WAY cheaper than chipping up all that stupid tile, replacing the subfloor and then buying the materials to do the kitchen correctly - I also don't want to have to cut all of the door jams and re-do the molding to lay new tile over the existing tile (which I am not sure you can do anyway!) I like to stone look over the wood. Kids - no pets - but we might have some in the future...

All comment welcome!
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Barbara

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Old May 27, 2011, 11:38 AM   #2
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I know you don't want to hear it, but I'm going to recommend removing the old tile. It might be easier if it was broken up with a heavy hammer first, then scrape and chisel away at it for as long as it takes. Invite the friends and neighbors over for a work party.

It may not be necessary to replace all the subfloor. Maybe you could use a self-leveling cement or patching compound to smooth it up and install a 3/8" plywood underlayment on top.

If you like luxury vinyl, you might like evoke flooring, or another luxury vinyl plank or tile floorcovering.

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Old May 29, 2011, 07:16 PM   #3
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Honestly I don't think we can pull it all up - I have not idea what type of tile it was - but when you hit it with a hammer or sledge - the glaze flies off in razor like shards that cut your forearms and then the interior turns to red dust. It was a horror show getting it up from this tiny bathroom! Evoke doesn't sell in my area - I am in MA.

Thanks for the reply though!

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Old May 29, 2011, 09:00 PM   #4
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Bashea said View Post
Honestly I don't think we can pull it all up - I have not idea what type of tile it was - but when you hit it with a hammer or sledge - the glaze flies off in razor like shards that cut your forearms and then the interior turns to red dust. It was a horror show getting it up from this tiny bathroom! Evoke doesn't sell in my area - I am in MA.

Thanks for the reply though!
I was hoping other pros would have addressed your concerns. I know we have some in the MA area of the country too. I still think removing the tile is the first step. There are other methods besides shattering it with a hammer and a variety of tools that could be used. Of course, you must wear protective clothing when doing any kind of demo work because of the danger of flying pieces.

I also suggested "...or another luxury vinyl plank or tile floorcovering." There are several major brands and I'm sure you can find one locally.

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Old May 29, 2011, 10:17 PM   #5
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Can you get Gerfloor Texline vinyl?
It's designed to looselay over just about any floor. It was sold to us as being able to be looselaid over ceramic tiles
I couldn't find much on The Gerfloor Site but this site gives more information

Latest vinyl & vinyl plank residential flooring, Rhino Elements, Pegulan Homemaker, Tarkett Wood

I have laid some of this product fully spread and loose laid
Also most vinyls can be loose laid but as I am from New Zealand one of your local guys might be able to suggest another alternative

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Old May 29, 2011, 10:37 PM   #6
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I would fill with a cementious based floor fill and lay something like Flexitec over it. It comes 13'2" wide, so there would be no seams.

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