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Old September 13, 2011, 05:24 PM   #1
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Peel and stick tiles...lifting


Hi there,

I installed some Peel and Stick vinyl tiles in my basement laundry room last winter which are now starting to lift (see attached pictures). Not sure but I think it's because I did this in the winter and the concrete floor was pretty cold at the time. I did make sure the floor was really clean before installing them and the guy at home depot got me to roll some sort of a primer on the concrete before installing the tiles (not sure if it was the right stuff tho, it was a white liquid) Just wondering what I should do to fix this??? Is there a type of glue I should get???

Thanks in advance...much appreciated.
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Old September 13, 2011, 06:05 PM   #2
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I never was a fan of peel and stick, but when I did play with them I used thin spread adhesive, what you would use for VCT tiles, let it dry and then install the tiles. A good idea for any of the P&S tile.

Also could be a moisture problem involved down there.

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Old September 13, 2011, 08:02 PM   #3
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I installed some Peel and Stick vinyl tiles in my basement laundry room last winter which are now starting to lift (see attached pictures). Not sure but I think it's because I did this in the winter and the concrete floor was pretty cold at the time.
Could very well be. Did you read the part of the installation instructions that said the room must be in a certain temperature range?

I did make sure the floor was really clean before installing them and the guy at home depot got me to roll some sort of a primer on the concrete before installing the tiles (not sure if it was the right stuff tho, it was a white liquid).
Prob'ly a latex sealer, or maybe an additive - still have the container? Did you read the application instructions on the container? Did it say anything about temperature, drying time or what exactly it was used for?

Just wondering what I should do to fix this??? Is there a type of glue I should get???
Yeah, like Darol mentioned, Clear Thin Spread tile adhesive is what I would have used. I never trusted the adhesives they used on peel & stick. You will probably ruin any tile you pull up, so I hope you have some left-overs. Coat the floor with a very thin layer of the thin spread - use a 1/32" notched trowel or even a paint brush/roller. Let the adhesive set until it turns clear (it starts out creamy white) before you set the tile. They also need to be rolled, I believe. And make sure each area you have to re-glue is very clean, including that tiny ridge of dirt that collects where the edges of each tile were.

Did I mention temperature range? That's just as true with repairs as it is with the initial installation.

It does look, however, that you will be pulling up a LOT of tile. You might just consider starting over and doing it right. That would have to start with testing the concrete for moisture in a few spots. Moisture will prevent even a good adhesive and better tile from sticking.

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Old September 13, 2011, 08:37 PM   #4
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To get up the tiles in one piece HEAT them up with hair dryer before lifting and pull up gently as to not crack the tiles.

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Heating up the tiles with a hairdryer might make them stick again also.

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Old September 14, 2011, 02:01 PM   #6
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Heating up the tiles with a hairdryer might make them stick again also.
With the proper new adhesive as Jim stated


Good ole' peel and stick

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Old September 14, 2011, 04:19 PM   #7
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Peel an stick isn't a great choice for what I see there as far as the type of area. VCT would be better and I believe they're actually cheaper in most instances---------they are at the Home Depot and Lowes around here anyway.

I'd go along with the hair dryer and clear thin spread adhesive for repairs. I "flat trowel" the glue on for peel and stick. That mean a trowel with no notches like a cement finishing trowel. As was noted a paint brush or roller are fine and dandy as well. So for a small repair like yours I'd use a regular putty knife. After softening up the tiles and peeling them back apply as LITTLE glue as possible to the back of the tile, the floor or maybe even both. Leave the tiles curled up and away and get a fan on there or just come back the next day. At that point where the glue is FULLY dry I'd then take a wet rag and press the tiles back down. When there down good then use a hand roller to pressure the backing, glue and substrate together and push out any air pockets. Clean up thoroughly with hot soapy water as best as possible and anything that doesn't come clean get at it with mineral spirits being careful not to soak thinner down near any seams.

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Old September 15, 2011, 07:23 PM   #8
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Thanks guys....much appreciated

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