"Konecto Sierra Problems Failure," in the Vinyl Flooring Q&A forum, begins: "Floorguy said
A what?
Never seen or heard of that thing, before. What is it good/normally used for?
Have any ..."
View Poll Results: How many problems have you had with Konecto?
Adhesive failure
26
43.33%
Edges curling
23
38.33%
Scratches easily
15
25.00%
Dents easily
3
5.00%
Visible defects in the surface
7
11.67%
Quality lower than expected
13
21.67%
Difficulties with retailer
1
1.67%
Difficulties with manufacturer's representative
7
11.67%
Poor professional installation
5
8.33%
No problems what so ever - I love this floor
18
30.00%
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I think they are mostly used on laminate counter tops. At least that's the section of Crain's catalog I have seen them in.
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They work well on Konecto, easy to get high pressure on the edges.
These pics show a job where the installer said he rolled the crap out of the floor. The field was well bonded, non walk areas coming apart, shop insists its bad adhesive. ( very selective bad adhesive, only bad around the sides of the rooms ? )
All we did was use the J Roller with some body weight to pressure the edges together, you can see the transfer when we try to pull the pieces apart.
If the Konecto comes apart again and the adhesive strips look new , then you probably have bad adhesive.
Back to the topic. I don't think the big issue is if Konecto fails or not. All products, no matter how good, will have some failure. It just seems from the posts I have read here and elsewhere that Metroflor has not responded well to the actual or percieved failures. Until they do, there will continue to be bad publicity.
Top right in these pics is a J roller but the one Perry is questioning doesn't look like a J Roller to me.
Mike it could be the installer rolled the flooring but maybe the temp at install wasn't quite right especially near outer walls.
Scott, You have a good point about colder temps along outer walls, these pics are from the sides of the main hallway in a Senior care center, that would make it the center of the building.
This job was 68 degrees at the time of install, but was installed by an inexperienced installer in a fast track environment (new construction, we all know what that means ).
I agree with the points about Metroflor not stepping up to the plate on training and support, some of you know i have been trying to start the Konecto Certified Installer Program for some time, but have run into road blocks from Metroflor. They don't believe they have a serious image problem.
I agree with the points about Metroflor not stepping up to the plate on training and support, some of you know i have been trying to start the Konecto Certified Installer Program for some time, but have run into road blocks from Metroflor. They don't believe they have a serious image problem.
Reading these types of threads is the number one reason I will not show this product to any client of mine. I bet I'm not the only one who feels that way either.
Reading these types of threads is the number one reason I will not show this product to any client of mine. I bet I'm not the only one who feels that way either.
The last one I was asked to bid the labor on, I bid it a little high, and got an e-mail asking why I was 3 times the cost of the nearest quote.
Guys are doing it for .75¢ a foot here, and that was not the silly low bid.
Reading these types of threads is the number one reason I will not show this product to any client of mine. I bet I'm not the only one who feels that way either.
I understand your reluctance to selling Konecto, but keep in mind that the product is being installed in existing health care facilities nation wide with very few problems, we are talking tens of thousands of sq. ft. per week of the stuff.
I will be in Denver this week to do pre install training at facilities that will total over 100,000 sq ft when completed.
Spec. Konecto where it works best, an acclimated space like health care is ideal, and demand proper training for your installers. It works if done right.
I understand your reluctance to selling Konecto, but keep in mind that the product is being installed in existing health care facilities nation wide with very few problems, we are talking tens of thousands of sq. ft. per week of the stuff.
I will be in Denver this week to do pre install training at facilities that will total over 100,000 sq ft when completed.
Spec. Konecto where it works best, an acclimated space like health care is ideal, and demand proper training for your installers. It works if done right.
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We did some in a health care setting. I can't recall how many square feet total but it was quite a few rooms and some large open areas----probably 5K ft. at least. The other job was a small market (~3K-4K) where I was cutting around the freezer units and refrigerated cases. I don't always get to go back and see how a product looks 6 mos. to a year later but I know one thing for sure; if there's a problem I know about it. So far, so good.
hi, i saw a 275000 sq/ft. prestige plank job, done for 1 month being ripped out. i have been an installer of all flooring types for over 30 years. but when i saw this happening, i had to try to understand why. as it was being torn out, i noticed there was no skimcoat patch anywhere under the material. even a 1/16" downward deflection or step on an edge of this material would be enough to pull apart a seam if you had concrete that wasnt perfectly flat. installers know this from installing vct around a pitched concrete drain. the material that was still down had hollow spots everywhere. plus the edge cupping. this was in a new medical facility ,temp controlled environ. i did see the tube video and agree all materials have sumptin about em. i remember the epoxy armstrong had, let it sit for45 min. use it , and roll roll,roll. gotta love that seagate, montina and all the true inlaids that needed the torch. i do beleive, while probably a good product, it needs more research and developement. especially for the diy. now the facility is getting 12 ft. commercial sheet goods.
hi, i saw a 275000 sq/ft. prestige plank job, done for 1 month being ripped out. i have been an installer of all flooring types for over 30 years. but when i saw this happening, i had to try to understand why. as it was being torn out, i noticed there was no skimcoat patch anywhere under the material. even a 1/16" downward deflection or step on an edge of this material would be enough to pull apart a seam if you had concrete that wasnt perfectly flat. installers know this from installing vct around a pitched concrete drain. the material that was still down had hollow spots everywhere. plus the edge cupping. this was in a new medical facility ,temp controlled environ. i did see the tube video and agree all materials have sumptin about em. i remember the epoxy armstrong had, let it sit for45 min. use it , and roll roll,roll. gotta love that seagate, montina and all the true inlaids that needed the torch. i do beleive, while probably a good product, it needs more research and developement. especially for the diy. now the facility is getting 12 ft. commercial sheet goods.
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