"Konecto: is it all that?," in the Vinyl Flooring Q&A forum, begins: "I was planning on installing 16,000 sq ft (that's correct 16,000) of a Konecto product on a new apartment building. ..."
I was planning on installing 16,000 sq ft (that's correct 16,000) of a Konecto product on a new apartment building. Buildings are on-grade concrete. I've read a lot on the forums about releasing, curling and adhesive failure, temperature dependent installation and maintenance issues. More negative that positive. Is there a professional on here that can recommend Konecto or an alternate comparable product? I'm looking for low-cost, low-maintenance, water resilient durable product. Konecto "sounded" like it was the ticket...but I am having some significant doubts now. Any unbiased advice will be appreciated.
I haven't had any of the problems you have stated and just did some of their tiles in a commercial city office/shop. I would say that if it is done right it is good but we all know about renters and how good they keep things up.
I have installed about 6,500-7,000 ft of konecto, and had problems with it 3 different times, one time the planks expanded because of the extreme heat, we had a few days a couple of moths ago when the temperature was above 100, and there was a window in front of the kitchen and the panks bubbled (about 4 planks only) Out of the 100 kitchens I've done in this complex, this is the only one where I had a problem. Another time was at this dining room the employees of this hotel eat, one of the guys said that they pour a lot of water on top of it, and although konecto says is water resistant, it's not. anyway, the planks were lifting, water got into it. Then this office we did, everything was good, but there was a hallway going to the restrooms, the planks were lifting too, a sales rep from konecto went and check the job and said that we didn't leave a gap between the floor and the walls, that's why they floor was lifting, but that wasn't the case, when they're mopping the bathrooms they also mopped that part of the hallway and the water gets between the planks.
if you don't want to run into any problems, I'd say get something different, maybe karndean vinyl planks? or you could tell the people that are going to live there, to not use water on the floor?
Sheet vinyl. Mannington Sobella or IVC type product might work well for you with parameters you spec'd.
Personally I haven't had any problems with Konecto Seirra Plank but I have had an issue with their low priced Allure product line that they manufacture for HD. I suspect their Country line would be similar to the Allure product.
Sheet vinyl. Mannington Sobella or IVC type product might work well for you with parameters you spec'd.
Personally I haven't had any problems with Konecto Seirra Plank but I have had an issue with their low priced Allure product line that they manufacture for HD. I suspect their Country line would be similar to the Allure product.
I am 99% sure they don't make that Allure. It's made by trafficmaster.
But we have put it in schools and commercial atmospheres. As long as you put it in and let it acclimate to the temp in the home you will be fine. And yes they say you don't need to, but do it any way.
But as it was mentioned. I have seen areas expand that are in direct sunlight from a window that faces the sun on a hot day. But I've seen it not do that more so than I have in front of windows.
Thank you all for your advice.
A combination of click together laminate and Sheet Vinyl (baths) has been successful for me in the past and I may well fall back to that given some of the experiences I've read about (here and elsewhere). Konecto certainly has introduced what appeared to be a spot-on product insofar as meeting the needs of the commercial and rental industry but maybe in due time they can address it's shortfalls.
Thanx again
I am 99% sure they don't make that Allure. It's made by trafficmaster.
I think it is all in the "packaging". Might be different Chinese companies though using the same technology?
Mannington Adura is also makng use of that style.
Like anything typically the more you spend the better the quality.
If you read some of my posts you will see that we did acclimate for several months. We had some hang ups with plumbing and were not able to get to the flooring as expected. So it sat from March to August and had plenty of time to acclimate. We then cleaned our floors meticulously. We rolled each plank with a kitchen roller tilted to one side to get the maximum pressure after we smoothed it with our fingers. Then we used the 100 pound roller FOR TWO WEEKS in every direction possible several times a day.
Did not work. Just last week the distributor rep. came and had prof. installers come to "fix" the floor he insists we did not apply enough pressure to. They heated and reglued some planks and afterwards too many to count popped up on both floor levels (one concrete and the other OSB). They decided to reroll it themselves because they also thought we did not do it properly. Well it did not surprise us that it did NOT work.
We are tired of dealing with this and getting pretty angry by now. This is clearly adhesive failure.
I would avoid it at all costs due to the complications of getting anyone to deal honestly with you if you should have difficulties with the flooring.
We are looking into how to get an independent inspection and then a lawyer. Like I said after so many months we are sick of it. We have a brand new 1800 s.f. addition to our home and can't even use it because the $11,000 flooring is pure junk.
I have pictures on this site along with the diy chatroom site.
I strongly advise against anyone using this floor due to our experience and many others who have had similiar problems.
If you read some of my posts you will see that we did acclimate for several months. We had some hang ups with plumbing and were not able to get to the flooring as expected. So it sat from March to August and had plenty of time to acclimate. We then cleaned our floors meticulously. We rolled each plank with a kitchen roller tilted to one side to get the maximum pressure after we smoothed it with our fingers. Then we used the 100 pound roller FOR TWO WEEKS in every direction possible several times a day.
Did not work. Just last week the distributor rep. came and had prof. installers come to "fix" the floor he insists we did not apply enough pressure to. They heated and reglued some planks and afterwards too many to count popped up on both floor levels (one concrete and the other OSB). They decided to reroll it themselves because they also thought we did not do it properly. Well it did not surprise us that it did NOT work.
We are tired of dealing with this and getting pretty angry by now. This is clearly adhesive failure.
I would avoid it at all costs due to the complications of getting anyone to deal honestly with you if you should have difficulties with the flooring.
We are looking into how to get an independent inspection and then a lawyer. Like I said after so many months we are sick of it. We have a brand new 1800 s.f. addition to our home and can't even use it because the $11,000 flooring is pure junk.
I have pictures on this site along with the diy chatroom site.
I strongly advise against anyone using this floor due to our experience and many others who have had similiar problems.
Hi, I am in the process of installing. Can you tell me how to find your pictures?
I just thought I would put the pictures I have on the other website here. We did acclimate, clean the floors really well, roll and roll and roll the floors with a kitchen rolling pin and then immediatly after each row with a professional 100 lb. roller. Oh and we stored our boxes upside down which is "supposed" to help the ends lay down better.
If you do have problems when you install this floor it is a nightmare getting anyone who has profited to accept those facts. There is story after story of people running into brick walls with the claim process.
But here are the pictures. The ones with white papers are the areas where there is lifting. The basement had too many so I just took some pictures. Pictures speak a 1,000 words. I can't sway anyone with my "opinion" because the pictures say enough. I do want to stress this is lifting of adhesive they are not gaps. I have a lot more pictures but this is all I can put on here.
Oh and we bought the Sierra Line which is supposed to be just as good as the Prestige but it doesn't have the aluminum oxide finish. That is what our salesman told us initially.
