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Old November 4, 2009, 05:32 AM   #1
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Seeking info on glue-down vinyl plank floor


We are experienced DIYers and are planning to re-floor our big living-dining-kitchen area. Leaning toward vinyl wood plank because of "country living dirt" & kitchen/laundry moisture. After reading a lot on the floating vinyls, were thinking glue down vinyl planks sound more stable & durable w/less potential issues. Any advice, opinions or recommendations for us? Thanks! J.C.

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Old November 4, 2009, 04:33 PM   #2
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What type of subfloor will you be putting this on, concrete or wood? That can make a difference on the type of prep you will need to do.

While vinyl is certainly not impervious to water, it's certainly would hold up better under wet conditions than say, wood or carpet. Vinyl can be very durable, but it also is susceptible to dents from furniture legs, as well as tears from furniture being moved around.

Are you pretty well set on having the same type of flooring throughout?

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Old November 4, 2009, 05:23 PM   #3
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We're pier and beam, so it's wood. We'll probably have to do a little repair to the subfloor no matter what we put down. What prep would you recommend for vinyl planks, if that's what we end up with?

We really want to go the same floor throughout; it's not a huge space, and it needs continuity. (Besides moving appliances - hopefully carefully! - and dining chairs, there's not a lot of furniture to move around.)

Thanks for any input!

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Old November 4, 2009, 06:17 PM   #5
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This is where one of the true vinyl pros would come in handy. I'm sure you're going to need to get your subfloor in good shape, and put down some underlayment to make it smooth. One of the vinyl guys will either correct me or expand on what I've written.

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With any roll vinyl or vinyl planks which is full spread the floor surface will mirror through the flooring material. I tell people who say the floor is smooth enough to lay vinyl on. I just say if it is a wall would you paint it? Then they say oh no its too rough for that. Thats how good the flooring to be laid over has to be. Would you paint it?

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With any roll vinyl or vinyl planks which is full spread the floor surface will mirror through the flooring material. I tell people who say the floor is smooth enough to lay vinyl on. I just say if it is a wall would you paint it? Then they say oh no its too rough for that. Thats how good the flooring to be laid over has to be. Would you paint it?
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Very good! I will need to use that! People don't seem to understand why perfectly smooth is necessary under a vinyl floor. They think it's thick enough that it doesn't matter. Telescoping doesn't make sense until it happens.

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I always tell people that something as small as a grain of sand will look huge under the vinyl.

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I always tell people that something as small as a grain of sand will look huge under the vinyl.
Absolutely!

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That is one time where a grain of sand makes a mountain out of a mole hill.

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That is one time where a grain of sand makes a mountain out of a mole hill.

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We have one in our back showroom under the VCT, and I show it to the nonbelievers!!

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A clean dry plywood subfloor would be your best underlayment for that glued down floor. It you have 3/4 t&g you need a second layer to eliminate any movement from the first layer. The second layer can be as thin as 1/4" if the floor is good and flat but if you need to cover some bad areas on your floor you might need to got thicker or if you need to match up to another surface in another room. You should run the new ulay perpendicular to the existing and off set the joints. You only are putting the second layer on to make the floor good for flooring so when you fasten the ulay down you don't have to hit floor joists with whatever you are using to fasten it down.

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As others above have said, plywood is the best choice. But be sure it is underlayment grade, as, if it is not there cannot be any assurance that there are not voids in the middle plys.

Use the nailing pattern on the surface of the UL. Add extra staples on the seams.

Lightly sand the joints, use a portland based floor patch (Ardex Feather Finish) on the joints, when dry, lightly sand again, sweep, vacuum and install per manu's specs.

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We really want to go the same floor throughout; it's not a huge space, and it needs continuity. (Besides moving appliances - hopefully carefully! - and dining chairs, there's not a lot of furniture to move around.)

Thanks for any input!

Most vinyl planks are pretty tough and are hard to damage as compared to most roll vinyls. With roll vinyls you have less joins but most of these have that plastic look. Some of our other friends here should be able to help you with brand names as we call things differently in New Zealand

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Old November 5, 2009, 01:14 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input. Appreciate the advice! Looks like we're looking at a thorogh prep job & plenty of time on our hands & knees -- worth it all, right? J.C.

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