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Old December 21, 2009, 11:19 PM   #31
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Better yet, have Lo make you a runner from some of the scrap he's always playaround with.

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I'd be happy to, but he don't have no stairs........ and I have lo idea how to flat lay a runner.

Jim, I just expanded the consumer forum and saw all of your work. Man, you been a movin'.

It looks fantastic. I wonder how namy times you thought it would never get finished.
... now you can rest a bit before you start work on the other tenant's place.

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Old December 22, 2009, 12:51 AM   #32
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Jim, I just expanded the consumer forum and saw all of your work. Man, you been a movin'.

It looks fantastic. I wonder how namy times you thought it would never get finished.
Yes, it has been 7 long months on this remodel project (just the living/dining/office/kitchen room). And it's not quite done yet. I still have 2 nice shelves to construct - one a kind of mantle under the TV. There's also a dishwasher to install, but I don't have the dough for that, so it will have to wait a while.

It does look beautiful though. I'm proud. I kinda over-did it and have spent the last few days mostly laid out on the sofa, just vegging out on TV and sleeping. The rain helps lull me into a stupor too. When it lets up, I will put the shelves together and try to take care of the little odds and ends. Then it will be time to plan the bedroom remodel.

... now you can rest a bit before you start work on the other tenant's place.
No way. I reserve my energy for my own remodeling. Let them fend for theirselves. 'Course, the new tenant moving in next door is kinda cute... hmmmm.

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Old February 8, 2010, 09:55 AM   #33
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Hi Jim!
Its been a couple months since your last post. I was just curious as to how the floor is holding up? I love this konecto stuff but have read several things concerning about it on installation on concrete and wanted your feedback.

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Old February 8, 2010, 12:35 PM   #34
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Hi Jim!
Its been a couple months since your last post.
And the admin in me wants to remind you about the rule concerning replying to old topics, but the braggart in me is glad you asked.

I was just curious as to how the floor is holding up? I love this konecto stuff but have read several things concerning about it on installation on concrete and wanted your feedback.
I love this floor too, even with its disadvantages. It's easy to keep clean and most of my visitors think I have real hardwood - and even those that ask what kind of material it is still think it's a beautiful floor. The biggest disadvantage is its propensity for scratching. Just about everything with a coarse or uneven surface will scratch it.

I was wrapping some old computer cases in cardboard a week or so ago and the roughness of the cardboard and the weight of the cases caused some tiny scratches when I slid the boxes around. My desk chair, which has plastic chair leg caps, is beginning to scratch when I slide the chair with my full weight on it. The very first scratch happened just a few days after installation when I slid a TV table over. The scratch concealer Konecto sent me works fairly well, but I really don't like that it scratches so easy.

One of the reasons I wanted a floor like this was because of my health (lung disease) and ability to deal with spills right away. It happened a few days ago when I spilled some coffee on the floor. I had been outside cleaning my patio of debris from the last storm. I started to feel dizzy so I came in to sit a spell. I guess I kinda had the shakes and reaching for my cup of coffee, it spilled onto the floor (the Konecto was soft enough the cup didn't break) and I just didn't have the energy to get a rag to clean it up. I was able to get to it about 20 minutes later. None of the coffee seeped between the seams and it doesn't appear there was any damage at all.

I didn't do a perfect job. The subfloor isn't as flat as it should be and I didn't use the proper underlayment for concrete. I can feel and see the flooring give way when I walk in certain areas, a couple spots as much as maybe a quarter inch. I can hear the stickiness of the felt paper I used for underlayment in those areas occasionally. But there's been no split seams, curling edges or other problems because of it - so far.

There were a few edges lifting very slightly and another near the sink, kinda half under the dishwasher opening, that was lifted about half the thickness of the material. But I think those were the result of me not rolling them properly when I installed the floor. I pressed them down with my thumb (I used the steel roller a friend lent me for the worst one) and none have lifted since then. None of the lifted edges were more than a few inches long anyway. I am pretty sure it was only installer error.

The floor was close to the last phase of this 8 month long remodeling project. It would have taken only a couple 2 or 3 weeks had I been healthy, but I have loved every minute of doing it and am now planning to do my bedroom and planning an arbor for my patio entrance. Below are a few final pictures of the floor. There's also one of the floating shelves I mentioned in my last post. It's made from the filler strips from my oak cabinets so as to add some continuity. It's a very comfortable space now and the floor, although not real hardwood, helps make this place look as sophisticated and relaxing as any home I've ever lived in.

Best R'gards,

Jim
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Old February 8, 2010, 01:12 PM   #35
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Sorry about posting on an old topic I had no idea! This is the first time I have ever comment or asked a quesiton on ANY forum :-) I read them from time to time but never posted.
The pictures look great! I love the floor and really want it in my home but nervous because I will be having a professional do this for me throwing out 5500 or so for this is a lot and I hope it doesnt lift on my concrete etc. You had mentioned that you didnt think you used the proper underlayment. What is the proper underlayment for concrete. Also I had read somewhere that the subfloor need to be between like 60 to 85 degrees during and a few days after installation. I live in Oklahoma and my room temp is that but no way is my concrete slab floor. I noticed you did this in the winter time and wondered what your floor temp was and what outside temps were in the REAL northern california area when you did your install.

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Old February 8, 2010, 02:28 PM   #36
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Sorry about posting on an old topic I had no idea! This is the first time I have ever comment or asked a quesiton on ANY forum :-) I read them from time to time but never posted.
Well, I'm happy you tried your first ever forum post here at TFP. Yeah, the old post rule is in the rules you had to agree to when you joined. But I have a little pull with the administrator here (afterall, he is my alter ego ), so you won't get banned yet.

The pictures look great! I love the floor and really want it in my home but nervous because I will be having a professional do this for me throwing out 5500 or so for this is a lot and I hope it doesnt lift on my concrete etc.
If the pro follows the installation instructions, the flooring is acclimated and the temperatures are in line with the recommendations, your money will be well spent. You might also mention TheFloorPro.com to him - we always like new blood.

You had mentioned that you didnt think you used the proper underlayment. What is the proper underlayment for concrete.
I didn't use the recommended Konecto underlayment, which is a blended synthetic fiber construction. I used saturated 30# black felt paper like they use on roofing. I shoulda used the Konecto underlayment.

Also I had read somewhere that the subfloor need to be between like 60 to 85 degrees during and a few days after installation. I live in Oklahoma and my room temp is that but no way is my concrete slab floor. I noticed you did this in the winter time and wondered what your floor temp was and what outside temps were in the REAL northern california area when you did your install.
I live 80 miles NW of Reno, Nevada, in the Sierra Nevadas of California. It's cold here and it was cold when I did the floor. It was about 70+ degrees in the room, but I doubt the slab was too far above 60° F., if that warm. I'm pretty sure the area near the entry was colder than anywhere else, but none of the seams lifted there and the floor is solid and flat in that area. But that's not to say I would recommend you take any chances on temperature. It's hard to measure the temps on a slab, but you should be good if you kept the room temp about 75.

Now, there are a few people here who don't like Konecto and there are several topics reporting problems. I'm sure there have been problems and I think there were some bad batches of the product some time back. But I am satisfied with the floor I have. I will even put it in my bedroom too, if I can't find another donor of a different product (I got my floor in exchange for a banner ad for the company FlooringMarket.com). Good luck with yours and please do tell us about your experiences (in a new topic, of course).

R'gards,

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Old February 8, 2010, 05:03 PM   #37
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Welcome Stephly, all Okies are top shelf around here. I fer one am real proud of what Jim has done to his place. We were gonna ban him awhile back, but he really came through with this remodel so we're keepin him.....

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Thanks for finally posting those finished project pics, Jim. The place has come together very nicely, you have quite the bachelor pad there.
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...you have quite the bachelor pad there.
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Seriously??? I'd be really disappointed if this place came off as a bachelor pad. It is certainly not how I envisioned it. I sure hope there's nothing overtly masculine about it. If so, I think a couple of the women who have visited might be closet dykes - a few have asked when I'm moving or dying so they can apply for the rental.

To be clear, I am not a bachelor. Too old to be considered that now. I over-heard one of my neighbor's friends refer to me the other night as "the old guy who lives next door." Didn't bother me a bit.

Jim
PS: thanks, CP, for letting me hang around a while longer.

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Old February 9, 2010, 06:37 AM   #40
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Really looks nice. I'm wondering about the few areas where the material is lifted a bit. How would you go about correcting that? A first time install for even an experienced installer could result in a few of those. the customer may not be as willing to live with it as you are.

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Old February 9, 2010, 07:04 AM   #41
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I think those few places were just areas I either didn't roll thoroughly enough or missed altogether. There was no consistency except that none were longer than about 4 inches and all went down very easily without recurring. You'd think I woulda rolled each and every seam as I did them, but I think it's possible I mighta lost track or missed some just because of the breathing thing. I'd get carried away and work for too long a stretch or would rest a moment 'til the dizziness went away. It was stupid, but I was into it and didn't care.

I have been nervous about it lifting or curling, what with all the complaints posted here on the forum. So, I've kept the roller and heat gun you lent me for a while for security. I think it'd be safe enough to send them back to you now though. Haven't needed the heat gun at all.

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Old February 9, 2010, 07:15 PM   #42
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I'm in no rush, still have another spare heat gun, and a torch. Hang onto them until you gone thru a full seasonal cycle, why don't cha? They are safe where they are.

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