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Old January 19, 2010, 05:40 PM   #1
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Discoloration on vinyl


From reading some posts it looks like you all like a challenge. I referenced a large discoloration on vinyl flooring (in another post) that we've finally decided to replace so will see if anyone knows what may have caused it. It's a mute point now though because it is being replaced (with Earthscapes) but I thought I'd see if anyone knows how this could have happened.

The sales guy from Carpet One sent the photo to IVC to see if they had any idea how it may have happened and they were stumped. I just hope it doesn't bleed through my new flooring...

Anyway, I don't know the manufacturer of the vinyl, but it was laid 11 years ago when we built the house. We had absolutely no problems until about 1 1/2 years ago. A burned-like stain started appearing and the texture of the vinyl started changing (it's very rough now). As you can see in the picture, the discoloration kind of wrapped itself around the table and chair legs.

What really stumped us was, we put a towel over it for a few days to see if it would disappear. It got darker! We pulled the blinds in the nook for several days and it too increased the darkness. So, that doesn't seem like it was caused by the sun. Under the table leg we have a caster cup that has metal on it. I don't know if it was then heated by the sun, but under the table leg soon got even darker than where it was wrapping around the leg. Just bizarre!

The only change that was made was one of the windows in the breakfast nook had been replaced. We thought maybe a different kind of gas was used between the panes and it was intensifying the heat from the sun or something. After a conversation with the people who made the window, they assured us we were nuts!

Has anyone seen anything like this before? I can't imagine it happening to the new flooring, but the 25-year warranty will help me sleep at night knowing that if it does, it's all fine.

Like I said, just curious at this point and thought I'd throw something to entertain you.

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Old January 19, 2010, 05:51 PM   #2
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Could we have additional pics of the overall room. It does appear to be limited somewhat by shading of some sort (the table).

And yes, we are easily entertained here aren't we?

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Old January 19, 2010, 05:55 PM   #3
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Looks like someone put a body in the crawlspace.
Yes, I watch too many CSI type shows.

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Old January 19, 2010, 05:59 PM   #4
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Oh, but y'all are entertaining as well!!!

I'll take some more pics tomorrow when the sun is out. It's in a little breakfast nook and seems that the part closest to the wall is where it's shaded from direct sunlight. But our little tests seemed to disprove the sun theory...

Stay tuned for more pictures!

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:00 PM   #5
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LOL Rusty! When my daughter has friends over for dinner the first thing she says is, "that's where we buried the dead body..."

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:07 PM   #6
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Have you looked under/in you crawlspace? Could there be a vent leakage or blockage?
Can you take the temp of the floorcovering at various times during the day, maybe with an infrared laser thermometer? Many people (husbands) have one they are not expensive and fun to use. I use mine to measure the temp of the fire on the bar b. As Well aspan temp when I cook. They can also be used to find leaks around windows that need caulking.

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:14 PM   #7
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I'd like to see what's directly to the left of the floor vent and up the wall. Is there a widow of some kind near the floor?

Years back, you saw a lot of discoloring like that from sunlight coming through sliding doors.

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:17 PM   #8
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My husband chuckled at the thought of a new toy!

He then taught me how to use the indoor option on the new camera so here are a couple more pics.

As for the temperature, no, haven't done that before. It's a bay window that actually overhangs the basement so there is no crawlspace under it. It's just odd that for almost 10 years there was no problem and it just popped up over night.

Oh, one additional change was we had a new HVAC system put in about that time but there doesn't seem to be any leakage. The subfloor and the underlayment aren't affected at all.

Notice that the "grout" lines aren't discolored. Just adds to the mystery...

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:21 PM   #9
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How old is the floor?

It is the sun!!

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:25 PM   #10
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The floor is 11 years now so was just under 10 years when it became discolored. At that time we didn't have the wood blinds on the windows.

I can believe it is the sun, but when we covered the floor and/or the windows, it got darker. 'splain that...

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:26 PM   #11
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My best guess would be direct exposure to sunlight....but who knows????

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:31 PM   #12
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Tandy. Peter, Roger should chime in.

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:34 PM   #13
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Seen it numerous times. I have seen this type of discoloration when the flooring is exposed to direct sunlight. I have seen it discolor around heat vents and I have seen this same type of discoloration underneath refrigerators, usually directly under the compressor. I have not seen it occur on the newer vinyl floors though. I have a sample that I pulled out a few years ago. Same color. I'll dig it out and post it tomorrow. I think it is more related to the heat.

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:40 PM   #14
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I think most of us have. But she is asking why.
Plasticizer reactions??

BTW Tracy, this will not bleed through your new floor.

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Old January 19, 2010, 06:43 PM   #15
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Sounds like maybe the warranty expired and all went down hill due to the sun, huh? My head started swimming when I read plasticizer reactions. The sun will do it for me.

Thanks Barry for the reassurance that it won't bleed through to the new floor!!! Whew!

You guys have been fun playing the guessing game with me!

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