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"Funeral Home," in the Vinyl Flooring Q&A forum, begins: "Nick Arrera said Ever ride around with one in your trunk , and have no place to put it ? ..."


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Old February 9, 2010, 10:54 PM   #31
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Ever ride around with one in your trunk , and have no place to put it ?
Nick, When they finished the Meadowlands space for that became a real premium?

Tia, I haven't been to a ADA seminar in a long time but the tests used to rate coefficient of friction. There was some controversy over the years about several protocols different groups were using. I'll look though all my tech crap and see if I can find anything pertinent.

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Old February 9, 2010, 11:08 PM   #32
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There is a large, too our standards, sugar refinery not far from where I live and we and various other layers have put down heaps of Altro through out the factory. Altro is the only flooring product that stopped everyone from slipping over. The sugar that gets spilled around the machinery is like ball bearings on any other flooring. They even tried painting the old existing flooring with paint mixed with sand. The only trouble was that if there were any tiny gaps the grains of sugar would go down the gaps and then swell when it got wet making a bigger gap

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Old February 10, 2010, 03:56 AM   #33
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So now I'm rethinking my suggestion, but still not convinced that I'm wrong on it ... he wanted anti-skid, so this seemed to be appropriate, not seeing how it could be hard to clean. Not at all porous. My best friend's husband is the head of Disease Control in a neighboring county with a large city (sorry about his luck). The floor I'm talking about falls into the lines of Adam's newer floor scenario.

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Porous is a bad choice words but I know what he's getting at. If the cleaning isn't done regularly the surface starts to look like it's absorbing dirt and grime because it will be settling into the low spots of the texture. Mannington Assurance is much easier to work with and not so hard to maintain as Altro. If slipping is an issue you've chosen a good product. I like it.

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Old February 10, 2010, 04:09 AM   #34
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I appreciate the input, and love learning something new every day! The owner is pretty much sold on me, because he found out my name was short for my real German name and the next thing you know, we were talking the Deutsch together. But, it's important for me to answer his question about why a heat-welded seam is better than a grouted tile seam for sanitary and antibacterial purposes.

Curious, I think this product is both homogenous and anti-skid? Maybe I'm portraying it wrong - it has a bumpy surface texture, causing us to say it is more resistant to slipping. I wouldn't say it has grit like actual anti-skid products.

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Ausgezeichnet!

There are aluminum oxide particles in the material. The material is homogenous meaning one layer that's the same all the way through and it's bumpy which adds to it's anti-skid quality. When you cut this stuff the metal eats up your blade real quick. Your knuckles and fingertips will be raw or bloody if you're not careful. One day I cut up about 600 yards of Realities and a couple rolls of Assurance for the restrooms and my hands were so torn up and swollen I was afraid I might need to go to the hospital. (actually i was in a hospital but it didn't start swelling up horribly til late that night) I've been wearing gloves for most of the day when I handle this stuff with the metal in it. I also have a couple of different knives to shave the weld rod. They get tore up also to the point that I won't use them on smooth floors.

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Old February 10, 2010, 08:10 PM   #35
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. I also have a couple of different knives to shave the weld rod. They get tore up also to the point that I won't use them on smooth floors.
Thats why the guys here use the extended snap off blades

Tia someone pulled up this comercial vinyl the other day and the heat weld still "stuck" so you can see it is a fairly strong join. And the vinyl was really stuck to the floor

This is on the lawn at our place today. Notice there is no white stuff. Just green lawn
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Old February 10, 2010, 08:20 PM   #36
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Some here use scraper blades snapped off to be smaller for the assurance and other anti skid materials.
I haven't tried it....yet.......but I am willing to try it.

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Old February 10, 2010, 08:24 PM   #37
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Some here use scraper blades snapped off to be smaller for the assurance and other anti skid materials.
I haven't tried it....yet.......but I am willing to try it.
Barry to me the way we do it here sounds better than scraper blades. The snap off ones really bend and lay flat and are real Sharp

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Old February 11, 2010, 08:07 PM   #38
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After some research, and in layman's terms, the weld rod is made of pure PVC and the one specified for each particular product is designed to have the exact same melting temp as the adjoining vinyl. So yes, if installed properly, it becomes one fused hygienic surface.

I'm confident in my decision to introduce the Mannington Assurance, since it seems to be exactly what this client is looking for. My husband did mention that I wear rubber gloves when measuring, and then I get to thinking about all the really nasty floors my tape has been on over time and wondering if I should pull it out and disinfect it??

Es ist alles gut!

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Thats why the guys here use the extended snap off blades

Tia someone pulled up this comercial vinyl the other day and the heat weld still "stuck" so you can see it is a fairly strong join. And the vinyl was really stuck to the floor

This is on the lawn at our place today. Notice there is no white stuff. Just green lawn
Very jealous of the green grass! Thanks for the example ... it all comes down to whether it was done right in the first place, don't you think?

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Old February 11, 2010, 09:29 PM   #40
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Very jealous of the green grass! Thanks for the example ... it all comes down to whether it was done right in the first place, don't you think?

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Tia I was trying to think of an excuse to remind you of what green grass looked like so I decided that this would be the excuse.
No seriously it was to show you how tough the heat welding was. I don't know how long the vinyl had been laid as this piece was given to me to patch a repair

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Old February 12, 2010, 08:08 PM   #41
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Tia I was trying to think of an excuse to remind you of what green grass looked like so I decided that this would be the excuse.
No seriously it was to show you how tough the heat welding was. I don't know how long the vinyl had been laid as this piece was given to me to patch a repair
I believe I have enough info to convince the brothers who own the funeral home to let me do this. Now I'm really excited, because I'm going to check out a huge gun club next week - have done work for the young man who has inherited it in his own home and it will prolly be a shoe-in of about 450 yards.

Let me tell you, I did learn something new ... he said they had ancient boar-hair carpet squares which they moved from one location to another in 1982, and they are much older than that. The boar-hair thing kinda stumped me, but come to find, it was used a lot in the downtown buildings aroung here wayyyyyy back in the day!

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Old February 12, 2010, 08:38 PM   #42
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Are you talking about Huega (Heugo?) sp? tile?

If so, that is really some tough stuff.

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Old February 12, 2010, 09:27 PM   #43
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Are you talking about Huega (Heugo?) sp? tile?

If so, that is really some tough stuff.
They are telling me it was seriously made from pig hair. Can't wait to go check it out. They say it has worn really well all these years!

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Old February 12, 2010, 09:50 PM   #44
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We used to import rugs from a South American manufacturers my folks happened across during their travels. They used animal hair in quite a few of their designs. They hand gunned everything and we had one that was a stallion with the horse's mane and tail done in actual horse hair. We wound up selling it to Merrill Lynch as a wall hanging in their downtown Chicago office.


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They are telling me it was seriously made from pig hair. Can't wait to go check it out. They say it has worn really well all these years!

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We put it tiles in a ski resort and an airport years ago in CA. They were like carpet tiles. I think they we were about 18 inch tiles. They were were something like Heuga tiles in name. They were pig hair on the surface. We glued them with 5 dots of white adhesive they furnished. Kinda like a PSA. But this was in the mid 80's.

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