Funeral Home

[rgfloor]

Heuga is now part of Interface.

FLOR by heuga carpet tiles, delivering unique floor designs with carpet tiles for the home

[Barry Carlton]

The tiles we put in I can't imagine anyone would want in a home!!! The pig hair was so darn coarse.
It held up well at the ski resort. I used to be an avid skier, so I was able to watch it wear.

[BrianM]

barrycarlton said The tiles we put in I can't imagine anyone would want in a home!!! The pig hair was so darn coarse. It held up well at the ski resort. I used to be an avid skier, so I was able to watch it wear.

Smith Food King put many thousands of yards of that tile in their produce departments. Ralphs (Kroger) was also using the tile for the same reason; slip and fall artists couldn't claim negligence. I always thought it was goat hair. I probably did 10-15K yards all told and everyone who asked me was told it was goat hair. Gotta love The Floor Pro Community for relieving me of my delusions.

[Peter Kodner]

If we are talking about "the hairy one" it used to be about 40% mohair with the balance being polypropylene and nylon. It also had a bituminous backing system they called Mexphalt.

[FlooringGirl]

barrycarlton said We put it tiles in a ski resort and an airport years ago in CA. They were like carpet tiles. I think they we were about 18 inch tiles. They were were something like Heuga tiles in name. They were pig hair on the surface. We glued them with 5 dots of white adhesive they furnished. Kinda like a PSA. But this was in the mid 80's.

I'll let you know on Tuesday what these are like - I love learning something new. At first I thought he was talking about horse hair pad, which is still here and there, but this is a whole different entity. He said he wants something in a carpet tile that will wear as well as this stuff did??? Mind you, they have dogs in the gun clubs, I've done one before ...

Tia

[FlooringGirl]

rgfloor said Heuga is now part of Interface. FLOR by heuga carpet tiles, delivering unique floor designs with carpet tiles for the home

Okay, went to the gun club today and what a bunch of fun I had there!

Forget the bad economy, they had lots of guys in there looking to purchase high-dollar guns. They were beautiful guns, handles of inlaid wood, mother-of-pearl, etc. - just lovely, and many of them. I heard the owner on the phone to someone talking about what a quiet week it was, yet there were 7 guys in there when I arrived, 3 came in after and the store also had things packed and ready to be picked up and sent out.

The "gun room" was like a giant bank safe (25 x 60), it had one of those doors on it like a vault, and there was a metal detector system you had to walk through. All the customers were older man and got a kick out of me being there.

Anyway, the man who has been around there the longest said that the carpet was in fact Heuga (thanks so much for letting me be a little familiar with this when he brought it up) - they had it in the original store downtown, left it there for the restaurant that took the place over in 1982, then bought some more at the new place. They want it again. I told him that in this day and age, it may cost a fortune, and he looked square at me and said with the way it holds up, it will be worth it. So, this is my goal for the week!

The young man who has inherited the store very much trusts me and my husband installer and the guy who has worked there forever, and is telling us to just work it out, along with his wife and the bookkeeper (for color choices), who I both get along with very well. Interested to see what this will cost ... but don't think it will be a problem.

Tia

[rgfloor]

Well, Tia tells me that the Huega was just the ticket and she found what she needed. Hope she gets the deal.

Where do I apply for my commission check?

[FlooringGirl]

rgfloor said Well, Tia tells me that the Huega was just the ticket and she found what she needed. Hope she gets the deal. Where do I apply for my commission check?

Next time you're around here, I'll buy you a very nice lunch!!

I'm getting the deal, as I did the home of the gun club owner (he inherited it from his parents) and his attorney wife, and they love me and Tommy. They are only in their early 30s and enjoy us That's why he called me about the club - AND the hardcore old guy that has been there forever was pretty darn impressed I got samples of the Huega. He actually smiled at me today and told me how amazed he was!

So when you coming to have lunch with me??

Tia

[Commercial Floor Rep]

Hey Tia,

Just wanted to chime in on the Assurance. Couple things that might help your installer if he hasn't welded Assurance sheet before. First, most welds are recommended to be trimmed after they are cooled. We recommend that the Assurance welds be trimmed warm. The reason is so that the welds shrink in a little after you trim them. If this isn't done, due to the irregular (bumpy) surface, dirt can accumulate along the side of the seams resulting in a call back for you.

Next when trimming the seams, Winkleman sales makes a small trim (skiving) knife specifically designed for all types of slip-retardent floors called a "Slim-trim Knife" part #WDD 645. My current pricing shows it selling for $20.00. This is critical as a regular skiving knife (quarter moon knife) tends to skive off the tops of the bumps because it is considerably wider than the slim trim. The slim trim just trims the weld.

Last if he's having trouble with the knife dragging or skipping try a little bit of dawn dish soap applied along the top of the rod when he's trimming. This helps a lot. After the trim have him take his welding tip off so he just has his "pencil" tip on his welder. Using low heat, so he doesn't scorch the vinyl, lightly glaze / shine the weld. This closes the porosity of the rod after it's been skived and protects it from dirt until routine maintenance starts. Optionally, and I recommend this even if he glazes the seam, take some MCS-42 seam sealer and a white shop rag or terry cloth towel. Apply a small bead of sealer directly on top of the rod. Let it work for 15-25 seconds then wipe of the excess, being careful not to smear it all over. I would do about an arms length or so at a time until I had the whole seam done.

The reason for protecting the rod is because it is raw PVC. When it's extruded the outside, cures - for lack of a better way to say it - harder than the inside. When you skive you've removed this harder outside skin and exposed the softer more porous inside.

I also wanted to addres maintenance on Assurance. This flooring has our Quantum Guard HP wearlayer - Read UV cured Urethane with Aluminum Oxide. This is an incredibly durable wearlayer. This wearlayer is intended to be low maintenance, meaning no polish. However, anytime you are dealing with a textured product this changes things. I would make a very strong recommendation that you apply 2, and ONLY 2, coats of a good metal cross linked floor polish. This will make cleaning this floor WAY WAY easier and it won't effect the coefficient of friction. This doesn't need to be repeated on a regular basis, unless they are not getting the results they want when doing routine maintenance then they can strip and reapply. If the funeral home has an autoscrubber have them purchase a soft bristled brush instead of using the nylon scrubbing pads. This will help agitate the loose dirt and debris out of the low spots and will give you an awesome looking clean floor. If they don't have one a poor man's version would be to use a neutral cleaner and working in small areas so the cleaner doesn't dry use a soft nylon bristled deck brush with a handle so you can stand up to agitate the floor with. BEFORE this dries switch to a clean cotton head mop and mop the floor with the neutral cleaner this will remove the loose dirt and debris before it has a chance to settle back into the low spots in the texturing.

Hope this helps and if you'd like any further info regarding the product or maintenance please PM me and I can give you my 800 # to call and discuss any questions you might have.

[FlooringGirl]

Commercial Floor Rep said Hey Tia, Just wanted to chime in on the Assurance. Couple things that might help your installer if he hasn't welded Assurance sheet before. First, most welds are recommended to be trimmed after they are cooled. We recommend that the Assurance welds be trimmed warm. The reason is so that the welds shrink in a little after you trim them. If this isn't done, due to the irregular (bumpy) surface, dirt can accumulate along the side of the seams resulting in a call back for you. Next when trimming the seams, Winkleman sales makes a small trim (skiving) knife specifically designed for all types of slip-retardent floors called a "Slim-trim Knife" part #WDD 645. My current pricing shows it selling for $20.00. This is critical as a regular skiving knife (quarter moon knife) tends to skive off the tops of the bumps because it is considerably wider than the slim trim. The slim trim just trims the weld. Last if he's having trouble with the knife dragging or skipping try a little bit of dawn dish soap applied along the top of the rod when he's trimming. This helps a lot. After the trim have him take his welding tip off so he just has his "pencil" tip on his welder. Using low heat, so he doesn't scorch the vinyl, lightly glaze / shine the weld. This closes the porosity of the rod after it's been skived and protects it from dirt until routine maintenance starts. Optionally, and I recommend this even if he glazes the seam, take some MCS-42 seam sealer and a white shop rag or terry cloth towel. Apply a small bead of sealer directly on top of the rod. Let it work for 15-25 seconds then wipe of the excess, being careful not to smear it all over. I would do about an arms length or so at a time until I had the whole seam done. The reason for protecting the rod is because it is raw PVC. When it's extruded the outside, cures - for lack of a better way to say it - harder than the inside. When you skive you've removed this harder outside skin and exposed the softer more porous inside. I also wanted to addres maintenance on Assurance. This flooring has our Quantum Guard HP wearlayer - Read UV cured Urethane with Aluminum Oxide. This is an incredibly durable wearlayer. This wearlayer is intended to be low maintenance, meaning no polish. However, anytime you are dealing with a textured product this changes things. I would make a very strong recommendation that you apply 2, and ONLY 2, coats of a good metal cross linked floor polish. This will make cleaning this floor WAY WAY easier and it won't effect the coefficient of friction. This doesn't need to be repeated on a regular basis, unless they are not getting the results they want when doing routine maintenance then they can strip and reapply. If the funeral home has an autoscrubber have them purchase a soft bristled brush instead of using the nylon scrubbing pads. This will help agitate the loose dirt and debris out of the low spots and will give you an awesome looking clean floor. If they don't have one a poor man's version would be to use a neutral cleaner and working in small areas so the cleaner doesn't dry use a soft nylon bristled deck brush with a handle so you can stand up to agitate the floor with. BEFORE this dries switch to a clean cotton head mop and mop the floor with the neutral cleaner this will remove the loose dirt and debris before it has a chance to settle back into the low spots in the texturing. Hope this helps and if you'd like any further info regarding the product or maintenance please PM me and I can give you my 800 # to call and discuss any questions you might have.

Thank you soooo much for the tips! My installer does a great job with his heat welding, but the suggestions on the maintenance are great. We recently put a bunch of heat-welded floors in a health facility, and they waxed them all - they looked terrible. We had told them not to, and I have no idea what they used to do it. When I went to check on the carpet layers (I mean take them pizza for lunch because we made them work the weekend), which was after the vinyl was down, there was caution tape all around the vinyl and it was all streaky and smeared. Ewww! Hoping they didn't void a warranty.

Thanks again, and I'll look you up if there are any questions. Am saving this post for the funeral home owners.

Tia

[cproader]

Let me stress the use of the special skivin knife Tia......sstttrresssssss !!!....

[FlooringGirl]

cproader said Let me stress the use of the special skivin knife Tia......sstttrresssssss !!!....

Thanks! I bring a guy down about 45 miles to do these heat-weld and flash-cove jobs and he does them the right way. We had a big discussion last year about the skiving knife, because of course, I'm always hanging around in the warehouse in the morning, half-asleep and drinking my coffee, checking out the things that are going on, asking lots of questions ...

Tia

[Commercial Floor Rep]

Welcome anytime.

I forgot to mention in my post when you clean off the MCS-42 use a little mineral spirits or cleaner thinner on the white cloth to remove the excess sealer.

On an earlier post you mentioned that someone had polished a floor, I believe Mannington Realities, and how bad the product looked. That product also has the Quantum Guard HP wearlayer on it. The wearlayer can be polished, however there is a specific sequence of steps that should happen before the polish is applied. If you look at the current maintenance for the product on Mannington Flooring ? Resilient, Laminate, Hardwood and Porcelain Tile Floors it will say something like "...If a polish is desired then..." It recommends using a red or black pad to the point it almost rough's up the wearlayer then applying the polish so it will bond. If this isn't done according to the directions the polish will literally "blister" off the wearsurface. This can be fixed by stripping the floor back as much as can be done to the original. With the embossing it's nearly impossible to get all of it off. Then following the directions to "scuff" the floor and reapplying the polish.

Had a local nursing home that would polish your sales notebook if you set it down long enough. They chose to finish the floor in a dining hall but not in some other areas and didn't follow the directions. Now they wish they would have just left it as is because the other areas they didn't polish look great are way easier to keep clean. Some time you can lead 'em but you can't get 'em to drink no matter how long you hold their heads under.